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Lee Harvey Oswald's "Lover" Claims Conspiracy

Posted: 10/18/11 02:30 PM ET

Here we go again!

Another conspiracy theory -- this time by a woman who has written a 600-page book (Me and Lee) claiming she and Lee Harvey Oswald were lovers and that instead of assassinating John Kennedy in 1963, he was trying to save him.

That might seem a stretch to some, but Judyth Vary Baker, now pushing 70-years-old, was in Toronto yesterday to push her book and attend what would have been Oswald's 72nd birthday party, held appropriately at the Conspiracy Culture Shop on Queen St. West.

For some, it's hard to take Ms Baker seriously.

Then again, it is likely true that she knew and worked with Oswald in New Orleans (the Reily Coffee Company) in the months prior to his (alleged) assassination of JFK on Friday, Nov. 22, 1963. May even have been his lover. She was married then -- and was divorced in 1987, the mother of five kids, now all adults.

Because I was the only Canadian journalist in the underground garage of the Dallas police station who witnessed Jack Ruby gun down Oswald on Nov. 24, some assume I have special knowledge of the Kennedy slaying.

I don't, although I've followed the case and periodically remarked on various inconsistencies and unanswered questions that abound in the shooting.


Ms Baker's contention that Oswald's earlier defection to the Soviet Union, where he married the niece of a high ranking military officer, was really a CIA-penetration, is patently silly. The mystery of Oswald's defection to the USSR is that he was allowed to return to America with a Russian wife.

Why did the Soviets let him return; why did America accept him? Dunno. It didn't happen with others -- why only Oswald? This reality has always been fuel for conspiracy buffs.

The "they" Ms. Baker says Oswald was trying to save the president from, are ether mafia types who wanted Kennedy dead, the CIA and/or Vice President Lyndon Johnson and people around him who felt Kennedy was betraying the nation.

This makes no sense whatsoever.

As someone who was there that weekend, I've always felt that if there had been a conspiracy to kill the president, in the 48 years since that infamous day, someone would have talked, or written, or revealed involvement.

A conspiracy would include many people, but nothing has ever emerged -- no diary, deathbed confessions, no authentic documentation of planned murder.

Still, valid questions prevail.

What I find interesting is how some of the witnesses of JFK's murder that November noon who were quoted extensively at the time, have changed their stories as years have passed. This isn't sinister, but human memory at work. As time passes and more details are learned, stories tend to change or adapt without the person realizing it.

And so it is with the Kennedy slaying -- as seen in memories of the "grassy knoll" where supposedly gunshots were heard, not necessarily at the time, but in later recollections.

Why has Judyth Baker waited so long before telling her story?

She says she feared for her life, as many who were connected with the case began dying -- if not mysteriously, at least before their time. Judyth became something of a recluse (do recluses usually have five children, one wonders?) until conscience and a desire for truth and justice persuaded her to write this book to clear Oswald's name.

I suspect it's a bit late for that, but give her marks for trying.

I remember talking to Jim Garrison, former New Orleans District Attorney who unearthed conspirators who supposedly killed JFK.

Garrison's prime suspect was businessman Clay Shaw who was acquitted and it became apparent (to some) that Garrison was a conspiracy nutbar. At least that was my impression -- if not Oliver Stone's, who make the film JFK, in which Kevin Costner played Garrison as if he had credibility.

At the very least, Judyth Baker is controversial, with believers and disbelievers in her contention that Lee Harvey Oswald was really a patriot who was railroaded into being a scapegoat for a CIA/mafia conspiracy.

While it's plausible that the mafia might want JFK snuffed, it taxes credulity as to why the CIA would want him terminated -- as improbable as Lee Harvey Oswald being a CIA operative going to Russia, and later trying to save the president's life.

 
Here we go again! Another conspiracy theory -- this time by a woman who has written a 600-page book (Me and Lee) claiming she and Lee Harvey Oswald were lovers and that instead of assassi...
Here we go again! Another conspiracy theory -- this time by a woman who has written a 600-page book (Me and Lee) claiming she and Lee Harvey Oswald were lovers and that instead of assassi...
 
 
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taina2
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11:37 PM on 10/26/2011
I still think Cuba was behind it and the powers that be covered it up so we wouldn't go to war.
01:16 PM on 10/24/2011
my great problem with the "official" story is the rifle used. it was a cheap italian surplus carbine. i'm a fair shot with a rifle but would have trouble hitting the ground with one of those things if i dropped it.
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Demitasse
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01:48 PM on 10/30/2011
Precisely. Not only was it a cheap weapon it was poorly maintained. Oswald had no cleaning equipment & the facts bear this out: the firing pin was rusted; the lands & grooves were worn; the barrel showed effects of wear & corrosion; plus the scope was easily knocked out of alignment - one shot was enough to render the scope useless; the shooter had to move his eye from the gunsight every time he operated the bolt, preventing a steady gunsight view; & the iron sight was useless because the scope was in the way. All this left Oswald one option & that was basically to point & shoot, which is what the HSCA essentially put in its report.

I've read the Warren Report & the HSCA rpt & the one thing that I couldn't find was whether any carbon was found in the barrel & on other parts of Oswald's rifle. I've looked & looked & read & read & I can't find anything anywhere about anybody finding carbon. The FBI supposedly thoroughly checked Oswald's rifle yet I've found nothing in the testimony or in any lab report that indicates the FBI found carbon in the barrel or on any other part.
08:12 AM on 10/22/2011
What an incredible stroke of bad luck. To be the President of the USA and be killed by the world's only "Magic Bullet. I didn't believe that in ''63'' and still don't. Only people who believe in Magic Bullets would ! That fact alone is proof of a ''conspiracy. Even the ''Lone ranger" didn't shoot Magic Bullets, and No one would have believed it if "They" said He did !
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11:14 PM on 10/20/2011
"it taxes credulity as to why the CIA would want him terminated". Worthington is obviously easily taxed or has done no research. History shows that the vast majority of 'journalists' who approach this event start off with the notion that the Arlen Specter (magic bullet theory) and the Warren Commission MUST have been right, and continue with the thinking gland switched to idle. The most incredulous Warren defender was Dan Rather who proved on national tv he was with no doubt an intellectual featherweight when he aired a special on the assassination.
As a result of the Bay of Pigs, JFK's plan for the CIA was to "scatter it to the winds" and create a successor under control of the Attorney General, RFK.
CIA operatives were in bed with both anti-Castro Cubans (irate at JFK for failure of the Bay of Pigs) and organized crime (irate at both JFK and RFK).
but.... it taxes credulity to wonder if SOME members of the CIA would kill to protect the agency or their position in it.... right?
leftcoastindy
Where did I put my MOJO
12:57 PM on 10/20/2011
A conspiracy would include many people, but nothing has ever emerged -- no diary, deathbed confessions, no authentic documentation of planned murder."

Mafia types have families and dont do confessions as a rule, CIA - you've got to be kidding. Not only would they not tell anybody ,even given the chance, but many died in action or misterious circumstances. As for the CIA/Russia connection, what informaiton do you have that was available before the assasination. Information after the assasination would be easily adjusted to confuse. Also, you only need 3 or 4 CIA people (who might have hated JFK) involved to have taken care of the situation. And how many of the statements you say have changed were not 'handled' or overseen by the CIA or FBI prior to your seeing them in the first place.
06:35 AM on 10/20/2011
and that 'magic bullet' is very difficult to explain

7 wounds and no marks?
c'mon..... even non NRA types know that can't happen
11:06 PM on 10/19/2011
So, there's never been a deathbed confession? I beg to differ:
http://www.rense.com/general76/hunt.htm
10:30 PM on 10/19/2011
It is so completely obvious JFK was killed by a conspiracy and that LHO was a CIA asset later turned patsy (funnily enough he told the world he was a patsy, why was no-one listening?) The whole LHO going to Russia and coming back with a Russian wife at the height of the Cold War is incredibly weird (and indicative of why Oswald went to Russia to begin with - he was an undercover operative.) There were spies manipulating the system so that just at the right moment Oswald's *flash* was turned off so he was not under surveillance before the President's visit. Also this whole "someone would have talked" theory is just straw man - why would anyone admit to killing a much beloved democratically elected President? Plus there have been plenty of whistleblowers over the years. Anyone who says there are no reasons why the CIA would want JFK dead hasn't done their research. The Bay of Pigs is one. JFK threatening to splinter the CIA into a thousand peices is another. JFK making speeches calling for greater understanding of the Russians and that peace should be the aim of America was another. Guess what we got after JFK's death? A massive escalation of the Vietnam War. Anyone who thinks JFK was shot by a sole gunman should read the book by James Douglass 'JFK and the Unspeakable.' It was a CIA black op, no question.
06:37 AM on 10/20/2011
i'd also look a the military hardware makers as they made billions on the vietnam war while americans and vietnamese died

sorta like the iraq and afghanistan wars today

follow the money
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05:52 PM on 10/19/2011
Why didn't the author mention the Senate HSCA, established in 1976, comfortably years after JFK's death did in fact conclude there was a conspiracy which involved others than Oswald. Little media attention was given to the findings (of course), and funding was not provided to further examine the conspiracy (of course), but the fact remains, the 'theorists' media loves to dismiss were in fact proven right in that case. That sort of dismissal is evident in the writer's first line of 'here we go again' which is disrespectful given the facts such as the Senate's HSCA finding. Oswald was the first of many patsies. The book should be interesting.
10:39 PM on 10/19/2011
yes, there was another patsy set up in Chicago by the name of Thomas Vallee. Also an ex-Marine with an unstable past and head injuries from the Korean War, he was given a job in a printing press overlooking the proposed motorcade route of JFK a few weeks prior to the planned visit. Unfortunately for the plotters a local policeman got wind of the plot and Vallee was arrested, and reports from a hotel manager of Cuban men in a room with rifles and maps of the motorcade route were never followed up. (there are also reports these men were arrested by local police but their arrest records are missing.)
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12:51 AM on 10/20/2011
I think I remember something on that. The list of patsies goes to current day. think of the recent news on any given so-called terror aversion plot. The trail is just long, going all the way back to jfk.
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05:38 PM on 10/19/2011
I wonder why the author of this piece doesn't mention that the death of JFK did in fact involve a conspiracy that included others than Oswald. That was in fact the finding by the Senate HSCA, established in 1976, comfortably years after JFK's death. Of course little attention was given to the findings, and funding was not provided to further examine the conspiracy. The 'theorists' media loves to dismiss were in fact proven right.
Oswald was just the first of many patsies used by certain factions of our 'government', a bogus practice which is still going on today.
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09:11 AM on 10/19/2011
Whoa! Her book has as much credibility as any other source, like for example... THE WARREN COMMISSION! Mr. Worthington, you couldn't sound more biased. The "official' story makes no sense whatever--and never will. Oh, and the movie was just someone's opinion.

Question: When you were in that Dallas garage, were you awake?
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tnanimation
06:10 PM on 10/18/2011
Trust Peter Worthington to come up with yet another fluff piece that he can toss his vacuous opinions into.
07:51 PM on 10/19/2011
Not fluff. He witnessed Oswald's murder. He's as qualified to write about him as anyone.
leftcoastindy
Where did I put my MOJO
01:01 PM on 10/20/2011
He himself just admitted that does not make him any more of an expert than anyone who has studied the whole disgusting affair.
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JeanFrancois Lord
02:49 PM on 10/18/2011
with his little comments here and there in the article, looks like Peter Worthington. has something to hide himself.
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amati1684
02:34 PM on 10/18/2011
The "former Lovers" of now-deceased famous people show up with monotonous regularity, and they always have a few intriguing tidbits to share (but not usually 600 pages of them). A woman claiming to have been a mistress of LBJ said that, on 21 November, Johnson assured her that by the next day, the perpetually condescending JFK would no longer be a problem for him.

At this point, anyone who ascribes a shred of veracity to the report of the Warren Commission is simply not paying attention to the evidence that has come to light. Even the House Commission on Assassinations was forced to conclude that there was sufficient evidence of a conspiracy to kill JFK. Most of the people who were alive in 1963 will be gone or (close to it) by the time certain documents relating to the assassination are unsealed. However it happened, it was a day that changed the course of history.
02:16 PM on 10/18/2011
Read David Talbot's "Brothers," in which he argues convincingly that Bobby Kennedy never accepted the Warren Commission report and ran for President, in part, so that he could reopen the investigation after he won. Apparently, his first call that afternoon was to the CIA, and he asked, "Was it one of your guys?" Most conspiracy theories don't hold water (9/11), and most of those that do are eventually solved. But every once in a while a small group can keep a secret. We'll never know who killed JFK (or Olaf Palme, for that matter).
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05:43 PM on 10/19/2011
lol. ok mister 'nine one one', go ahead and explain building seven. we're waiting.
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03:04 AM on 10/20/2011
Building 7 was a tube constructed building, It was not a grid constructed steel building, The diagonal slice from falling debris was enough to destroy at least one of its support columns, The weight of its 40 stories was held up by fewer columns because the designers wanted an airy atrium, The building's weight was pushed out to the exterior because the building it was constructed on could not hold the 40 stories (27 was the max I think) so damage to the exterior would have weakened 7 significantly. The fire did the rest. EVERY BUILDING 7 CONSPIRACY GETS DEBUNKED AND HAS TO BE REPLACED WITH NEW ONES. http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm