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The Lady was a Champ

Posted: 01/10/12 10:34 AM ET

One of my fading memories is having a brief chat with Margaret Thatcher when, as leader of Britain's Conservative Opposition, she attended a reception in Toronto thrown by the late Eddie Goodman.

Goodman had supported Flora MacDonald in the 1976 federal Progressive Conservative leadership contest. Joe Clark won that contest, and when he became PM for a few minutes in 1979, he appointed Flora as External Affairs Minister.

At the reception, people were suggesting that Flora was a Canadian version of Mrs. Thatcher -- both being the first women to challenge for their party's leadership. Even then, I was an ardent believer in Mrs. Thatcher's policies, style, and outlook. I quipped that comparing Flora to her was as ludicrous as comparing Harpo Marx to Karl Marx.

A silly remark, but you get the idea. I remember Mrs. Thatcher raising a quizzical eyebrow at such a comparison, but good manners prevailed and she smiled dismissively.

Now a movie is out --The Iron Lady -- with Meryl Streep playing Mrs. Thatcher. The role is certain to get Streep her 17th Academy Award nomination and, if there's any justice, her third Oscar.

It also reminds how astonishing and effective Mrs. Thatcher was as a leader.

There are those who think -- and I am one of them -- that Maggie Thatcher rates as Britain's greatest PM of the past century. Perhaps the greatest ever. Conventional wisdom would side with Churchill in that role, but he was a wartime leader who saved his country from Hitler.

Churchill had no choice but to be great. It was lead or perish. Being great in peacetime is a greater challenge, and Mrs. Thatcher rescued Britain from the octopus tentacles of rampant socialism, broke the malignant power of unions, increased the wealth of everyone, privatized the country, and restored pride and greatness to Britain.

What's interesting about her -- and British Conservatism -- is that she formed three successive governments and never, since being elected to the Commons in 1959, did she ever lose an election.

She was eventually done-in by the party she rescued from Edward Heath (who never forgave her). She resigned as PM in 1990 and as an MP in 1992, vigorously opposed to Britain adopting the euro as currency.

It's tempting to suppose a divinity was watching over the West when the Soviet Union was in full throttle and threatening the world because of its fear that Ronald Reagan was plotting war. By allying herself with President Reagan, Mrs. Thatcher added brains to his courage and convictions. The pair were a perfect tag-team--and because Mikhail Gorbachev was sane, reasonable and realistic, it meant the world was safe.

George Bush too, when he became president, was fortunate after 9/11 that Tony Blair was Britain's PM, and became an invaluable and articulate ally against international terrorism, despite it costing him support within the Labour Party.

As Lord Howe of Aberavon, Geoffrey Howe, formerly Mrs. Thatcher's deputy Prime Minister, said of his former leader: "Her real triumph was to have transformed not just one party but two, so that when Labour did eventually return, the great bulk of Thatcherism was accepted as irreversible."

There's some criticism of the Thatcher movie from Conservative factions in Britain -- not of its content, but of its timing. Mrs. Thatcher, at 86, is in the throes of dementia, and there's a feeling that it's cruel and unnecessary to depict this decline in the movie when, during her career, she was such a towering force of relentless conviction.

Maybe such criticism is valid. But Thatcher's greatness is enhanced by Meryl Streep who is arguably the greatest movie actor who ever lived. Only Helen Mirren approaches her talent. But Streep has a perfect pitch ear for accents and nuance. She is adept in every role she attempts and, if asked, could probably be convincing depicting Kim Jong-il -- witness her diverse personalities of Thatcher, Julia Childs, and Miranda Priestly.

Looking back, some of Thatcher's memorable quotes include:

. I don't mind how much my Ministers talk, so long as they do what I say.
. If they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.
. Europe was created by history. America was created by philosophy.
. Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't.
. If my critics saw me walking over the Thames they would say it was because I couldn't swim.
. It pays to know the enemy -- not least because at some time you may have the opportunity to turn him into a friend.
. Platitudes are there because they are true.
. There are still people in my party who believe in consensus politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors.
. There can be no liberty unless there is economic liberty.
. To cure the British disease with socialism was like trying to cure leukaemia with leeches.
. You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it.
. The men in the Soviet Politburo do not have to worry about the ebb and flow of public opinion. They put guns before butter, while we put just about everything before guns.
. You turn if you want to. The lady's not for turning!
. We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level, with a European super-state exercising a new dominance from Brussels.
. The (EU) is "fundamentally unreformable . . . a classic utopian project, a monument to the vanity of intellectuals, a program whose inevitable destiny is failure.
. I would never be prepared to give up our own currency.
. If you have a single currency you give up your independence. You give up your sovereignty. That we must never do.
. Socialists cry, "Power to the people" and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean -- power over people, power to the State.
. For every idealistic peacemaker willing to renounce his self-defence in favour of a weapons-free world, there is at least one war-maker anxious to exploit the other's good intentions.
. It is not the creation of wealth that is wrong, but the love of money for its own sake.
. I owe nothing to Women's Lib.

 
One of my fading memories is having a brief chat with Margaret Thatcher when, as leader of Britain's Conservative Opposition, she attended a reception in Toronto thrown by the late Eddie Goodman. Go...
One of my fading memories is having a brief chat with Margaret Thatcher when, as leader of Britain's Conservative Opposition, she attended a reception in Toronto thrown by the late Eddie Goodman. Go...
 
 
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Jack Canuckski
Canadian Observer of the passing scene
08:54 PM on 01/15/2012
From Mr. Worthington's selection of quotes, he shows Mrs. Thatcher as being a fallible human being, as we all are.

Certainly she was right when she said, "If you have a single currency you give up your independence. You give up your sovereignty.", and if anyone were to raise the argument with me, as some used to in the past, that Canada should give up the looney, and use the $US, in order to further stimulate trade with the US, thus creating jobs, I would begin my argument by quoting Margaret Thatcher.

I also agree to her statement that "there can be no liberty unless there is economic liberty."
However, my interpretation of economic liberty is not an economic system that condemns the vast majority to lives of wage slavery or worse. To my mind, economic liberty does not mean the liberty of a few wealthy capitalists, the 0.0001%, to exploit the creative efforts and productive power of millions of working, thinking, breathing people for no other purpose than their own further enrichment.
To my mind, socialism is a form of economic democracy, and just as democratic political structures are less rigid, and therefore more adaptable to changing social conditions, and therefore more durable, I would argue that democratically controlled economies respond more effectively to changing economic conditions and are more fair, stable and durable.
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thewho77
07:57 PM on 01/15/2012
The Iron Lady was very good at putting people out of work. How is that great?
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OleProfessor
"Ours is not a system based upon trust"
06:47 PM on 01/15/2012
"Churchill had no choice but to be great.."

So much for Winston Churchill..

Easy for you to say..
georgee2
My Canada Includes Everyone
05:36 PM on 01/15/2012
The lady was a champ. A champ at what. Putting people out of work. lowering the standard of living.
Trickle down economics does not work. How many times does it have to be proven before the right will admit that they are wrong.
11:57 PM on 01/15/2012
One would only have to view the horrific conditions created by the Labour Party, a country in economic ruin , a fiscal basket case, to realize that Thatcher brought, order, economic salvation, and an end to communist led chaos in the coal industry. Strong medicine , indeed, but entirely necessary .

The right are often correct, and actually have a clue in how to govern a country .
Jack Canuckski
Canadian Observer of the passing scene
02:51 PM on 01/15/2012
There are those who believe that Ronald Reagan was a great US President. I believe that Ronald reagan's economic policies began the extreme financialization and hollowing out of the American economy. President Reagan's inspiration was Margaret Thatcher, who's policies in Britain over time have desimmated British unions, and with it the British working class, placing too much power in the hands of the financeers, unbalancing the British economy and leading Britain and the world to the present global economic crisis. So, in retrospect, I would argue that maggie Thatcher's time as British Prime Minister has been an unmitigated disaster.
11:22 PM on 01/14/2012
Thatcher nearly tripled unemployment in her first two years ("Labour is not working" was her campaign slogan!" - up it went from 5% to 13%) When economists asked that she have mercy on the people that she was destroying she infamously said "this lady's not for turning". She defeated the miners by shutting down the coal mines! She defeated the unions by causing so much unemployment that people were grateful to have a job. She caused great damage in large parts of the country. Most British think Clement Attlee was their best PM by the way.
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john frodo
armchair expert
10:28 PM on 01/14/2012
England has the worst quality of life in Europe and Thatcher is responsible
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stanschurman
07:47 PM on 01/14/2012
Why do I feel that Worthington is probably a secret admirer of certain German and Italian leaders of the '30s and '40s. Has he ever met a right-winger he didn't want to hug?
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Bec DeCorbeau
Le langage de l'invisible est le silence
06:46 PM on 01/14/2012
And look what that great right wing republican-conservatism has done to the world! The world is on his knees begging! What a réussite!
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FearlessFreep
A radical leftist with a JS Woodsworth avatar.
06:10 PM on 01/14/2012
Thatcher's most characteristic quote was "There is no alternative." (Which meant, "Even if there are alternatives, I do NOT want to hear about them!")
04:45 PM on 01/14/2012
You lost me at "rampant socialism"
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John Devlin
05:50 PM on 01/14/2012
Clement Attlee. Free milk for school children.
Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together... Mass hysteria!
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FearlessFreep
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06:06 PM on 01/14/2012
When Thatcher was Education Secretary in the Heath government she tried to cancel the school milk program, getting her the nickname "Thatcher the milk snatcher."

Greater than Churchill, my grandmother!
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canuckistaneh
Science!
07:51 PM on 01/14/2012
Maybe instead of "tentacles of rampant socialism" he meant to say " Saving Britain from the commie red hoards" I have quite a few hockey friends from the socialist north of europe and I wonder what they would think of this "imperial capitalist dog".
01:44 PM on 01/14/2012
A "Great Woman" she may have been but Thatcher/Reagan so-called "voodoo economics" demonstrably doesn't work which is why it carries that name. Wealth does not trickle down from on high, it floats to the top and stays there. The proof is everywhere in the US and Canada today, also the UK where rioting of no-hope underclasses has already occurred. If income is not reasonably spread via tax regimes or (reasonable) unionism so that the vast majority of the population can make a living and raise a family in middle-class circumstances, you have a disaster of a world where "the rich" will ultimately become poor because there is nobody left with the wherewithal to purchase the goods that made them rich in the first place. Money-spinners on wall street actually provide no net benefit to anyone, they merely churn the system and suck cash out, they stand on the shoulders of those who produce. Such activities as high-speed trading create no wealth and should be illegal.
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John Devlin
04:38 PM on 01/14/2012
The pedant in me compels me to point out that the term "voodoo economics" was coined by George H.W. Bush during the 1980 presidential campaign.
Say what you will of its merits, the doctrine didn't acquire the name AFTER it had been tried.

Source: Ferris Bueller's Day Off
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thewho77
08:00 PM on 01/15/2012
thirty years of The Iron Lady Thatcherism and Ray-Gun's Reaganomics have destroyed western civilization. Better learn to speak Chinese. How is that great, by the way?
10:09 PM on 01/15/2012
"Great" doesn't necessarily mean "good" or that you should agree with her. It simply means that in her case she was one of the most successful women of her generation.
01:08 PM on 01/14/2012
if one were to look at the numbers one would see the GDP of the UK
DOUBLED DURING THATCHERS time from 230 TO 557-----and you would say wow she really did it except that in the five year period before her, it doubled from105 to 230 and in the 15 year period after she left it more than doubled from 557 to 1209----but it took ten years to double as compared to the five year double before her time

ya but she really reduced the debt levels ------fact is the DEBT to GDP had been falling since 1950 when it was 250% ----the forty year slide bottomed in 1990

both economic readings were "trending same direction" before her and merely continued the same trend during her time
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CanadaStan
Cogito ergo spud, I think, therefore I yam
01:18 PM on 01/14/2012
The labour leaders who opposed her then now admit her policies were correct.
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Paul Stacey
Kill guns, not children.
01:52 PM on 01/14/2012
A statement like that, I'd expect at least one reference. But then I consider the source.
04:07 PM on 01/14/2012
the numbers dont lie --------there was more sizzle than steak where she and reagan were concerned
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John Devlin
04:39 PM on 01/14/2012
The business cycle doesn't seem to care all that much who's in charge.
Politicians just hope the upswings correspond with election years.