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High Hospital Parking Costs Add Insult to Injury

Posted: 01/22/2013 12:33 pm

At my last chemo session a lady was talking about how she was paying $80 in cab fare just to get to each of her hospital visits. That gets one to thinking of the extra financial burdens that are placed on patients and their families and friends. Some of these like loss of wages and uninsured drug costs can be catastrophic.

Because they cannot afford to do otherwise, many people try to continue to work or go without expensive drugs and thereby jeopardize their recoveries. There are other, often less thought of expenses, that can really add up.

Take hospital parking. To illustrate this I pulled together daily maximum rates for the 14 cancer centres in Ontario and show them below sorted most to least expensive.

  • Toronto, Sunnybrook -- $23.00
  • Toronto, Princess Margaret -- $19.00
  • Newmarket -- $17.00
  • Oshawa -- $16.00
  • Kingston -- $16.00
  • Mississauga -- $16.00
  • Hamilton -- $15.00
  • Barrie -- $15.00
  • Ottawa -- $13.00
  • London -- $10.50
  • Kitchener-Waterloo -- $10.00
  • Thunder Bay -- $7.00
  • Sudbury -- $6.00
  • Windsor -- $3.00


The average is $13.32 per day with Sunnybrook topping the list at an astronomical, just plain mean $23 and Windsor at the bottom with a much more kindly $3. Over a course of treatments this really adds up. Full parking charges, twice a week for six weeks can cost you up to $276 at Sunnybrook on top of the cost of getting your car to the hospital. In addition before treatment started, you probably went to the bank machine a few times to pay for parking while getting diagnostic scans, physician appointments, follow ups, etc. If you are in for a few overnights, I would imagine the higher the rates, the less visitors want to come.

As you can see the higher rates tend to be in the Toronto GTA and larger cities. Many centres will give you directions on how to get there via public transit which does of course avoid the parking charges. There are at least two very serious public transit issues with cancer patients. First treatment often knocks down our immune systems making us highly susceptible to contagious diseases. You have a much larger chance of catching a cold or the flu by adding a trip on a bus or subway to your routine than being in your car.

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Second, treatment makes us physically weaker so adding the public transit trip where we could easily wind up standing the whole way can be very draining. A good example is the Toronto subway which can be a noxious place for anyone with physical disabilities. Only 31 of the 69 stops have elevators. Most have escalators but often they only go one way if they are working at all. One trip to Sherbourne station when you have to walk down several long flights of stairs with a wind tunnel effect that wants to take a CFL football player off his feet will demonstrate the the problems quite nicely.

There is another alternative in many areas. The Cancer Society will provide free transportation to and from the centre for the course of your treatments. My experience has shown that it has its flaws but is generally a good system and a donation to the Society will usually cost you a lot less than being gouged by some of the hospital parking rates.

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  • Canada

    The Canadian National Average is $241.72, marking a rise of 2.7%.

  • Waterloo Region

    12. Waterloo Region, Ont. $132.49/month. Up 3.3%.

  • Saskatoon

    11. Saskatoon, Sask. $157.50/month. No change.

  • Winnipeg

    10. Winnipeg, Man. $159.86/month. Up 5.0.

  • Halifax

    9. Halifax, N.S. $181.60/month. Up 4.8%.

  • Regina

    8. Regina, Sask. $182.50/month. Up 8.3%.

  • Victoria

    7. Victoria, B.C. $184.80/month. No change.

  • Ottawa

    6. Ottawa, Ont. $225.00/month. Up 2.3%.

  • Vancouver

    5. Vancouver, B.C. $277.82/month. Down 3.5.

  • Edmonton

    4. Edmonton, Alta. $295.00/month. Up 7.3%.

  • Toronto

    3. Toronto, Ont. $316.40/month . Down 4.8%.

  • Montreal

    2. Montréal, QC. $330.96/month. Up 11.7%.

  • Calgary

    1. Calgary, Alta. $456.75/ month. Increase of 2.0%

 

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At my last chemo session a lady was talking about how she was paying $80 in cab fare just to get to each of her hospital visits. That gets one to thinking of the extra financial burdens that are place...
At my last chemo session a lady was talking about how she was paying $80 in cab fare just to get to each of her hospital visits. That gets one to thinking of the extra financial burdens that are place...
 
 
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10:04 AM on 01/23/2013
I have a slightly different take on hospital parking. The Ottawa Hospital parking costs $13.00 a day. The entire revenue goes to patient care. Having said that, when my husband was admitted for a heart attack last year, I did not have to pay for his room, his doctors and nurses, the procedure which saved his life, the many tests which were ordered, nor the 6-month follow-up care which he received. Makes the $13 @ day seem paltry. I am not saying that there are people who cannot absorb the parking costs but most of us can. When you stack it up against the care, I can't complain. The stent and the angioplasty alone would have cost us thousands. I can only wonder what all of the other services (the room, staff etc. which I have outlined already) would have cost.
Just another perspective.
compro01
Conservatism : Policy-based evidence making
11:23 PM on 01/22/2013
"Emotional people"? It's kicking people when they're down.
10:01 PM on 01/22/2013
I am a cancer patient and my Oncologist is at Juravinksi in Hamilton. Each MRI or appointment I go to costs me $30 in gas to get there as I live an hour away and $15 to park. It sucks. While obviously hospitals have a right to charge I wish they could offer discounts for people who have to make multiple trips like cancer or dialysis patients. While yes most places offer a weekly discount for unlimited use, the fee of $85+ is alot of money for many people. Better yet, when coming for an appointment such as Oncology, how about they validate your parking? Afterall it isn't like they aren't getting paid for you to be there. :)
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Nancy Stewart Cockburn
07:32 PM on 01/22/2013
Anyone can correct me if I am wrong but the parking a Victoria General does not even go to the hospital. It is privately owned.

Apparently even doctors can get tickets if they are stuck at the hospital too long.
05:57 PM on 01/22/2013
I could understand a more reasonable parking fee. When my mom was put into intensive care because of a procedure a doctor at a local hospital mucked up, the parking averaged around $20/day (depends if I had to leave the lot to take care of the rest of my life and then return) multiply that by 21 days and it's pretty whopping. Some days, it would be cheaper for me to receive a parking ticket than park in the lot. It was a pretty big insult to injury.
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MaggieCanuck
05:13 PM on 01/22/2013
I have spent the last 3 yrs fighting non-hodgkins lymphoma with almost non-stop chemo treatments, tests & doctors' appointments. Fortunately my cancer centre is Windsor where the parking fees are the lowest, although when you add my 100 km round trip to that, it's really adds up!
The problem with Windsor is that the Cancer Centre parking lot is very small & most of the time you end up having to park in the regular parking lot where the fees are higher, so $3 is not the true picture. I'm shocked at how much Sunnybrook parking is & I don't know how I would have afforded to go there when I already had to give up my job & my husband takes time off to take me. My personal opinion is that Cancer patients should be able to claim parking & mileage expenses on their income tax.
06:25 PM on 01/22/2013
If you have to travel 40 km or more - one way - for any kind of medical issue you can claim mileage and parking expenses. 80 km or more - one way - you may claim mileage, parking, meals and hotel if required to stay overnight. 80 km and more, you can claim meals for a companion. Revenue Canada website has complete details. If you could have claimed in previous years but didn't, you can ask Revenue Canada for a re-assessment - they are very obliging.
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newshoundmama
My bite's worse than my bark
11:36 PM on 01/22/2013
Given the distance you reported you're travelling, you should be able claim it on your income tax. I think a distance of 40 km if you're taking a public means of transport, and 80 is being driven in a private vehicle. All of your health care expenses for the year would have to be a percentage of your income, so that'll vary from person to person, however most people fighting cancer will likely incur enough to exceed that percentage. Speak to whomever prepares your taxes; they'll be able to help you determine what expenses qualify.
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MaggieCanuck
11:39 PM on 01/24/2013
Thank you Cyanotic & Newshoundmama for your info. I will definitely check it out & I'm surprised my accountant didn't mention it.
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ttsgw
Atheist and secular humanist
04:39 PM on 01/22/2013
Making profit of the most vulnerable. Of course, everything else would have been very un-American.
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AlwaysCanadian
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03:30 PM on 01/22/2013
High parking fees create issues for neighborhoods as well. Every neighborhood near a hospital is always packed with cars belonging to people destined for the hospital. These people circle around these residential neighborhoods looking for a place to park. The residents of these neighborhoods always complain about litter, blocked driveways and the influx of strangers around their kids. They also complain if they have visitors over, they have no place to park. Ditto for deliveries, ambulances, firettrucks, garbage collectors and snow removal vehciles who need a wider clear area. Cars parked on both sides of residential roadway cause all sorts of issues.

If the parking fees at the hospitals were reasonable, more people would prefer them rather than walking blocks in the cold, rain or snow. Increasing the hospital revenue and decreasing the irate neighbors.
02:10 PM on 01/22/2013
PHIL. Here are some things that you should consider when it comes to hospital parking. I was a senior manager for a parking operator that managed operations on behalf of hospitals, and there are some key things that you should know:

1. if you have financial difficulty paying for parking, the hospital will waive parking fees. We saw up to 20% of all parkers not pay for their parking due to financial concerns.
2. Weekly/monthly passes: Your post outlined the daily rates - as a regular user of hospital services, you would be able to buy discounted passes for weekly/monthly visits.
3. The 2 largest sources of revenues for hospitals are Tim Hortons (or other food) and parking. When the government caps their remittances to hospitals, there are only a few ways the hospital can make the cash to provide services. The parking revenues are not lining the pockets of any hospital exec - they are going directly into the provision of health services - equipment, nurses, doctors, and hospital materials.

I know that none of these will in any way make you feel any better for parking at a hospital, but if you are in financial hardship you can speak with the customer service agents at the hospital to work it out.
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AlwaysCanadian
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03:26 PM on 01/22/2013
Well, I agree that "The parking revenues are not lining the pockets of any hospital exec -" but then the question is how do the hospitals that charge lower parking fees balance their budget?
10:03 AM on 01/23/2013
Parking charges also have to be consistent with the local market - like the way real estate is. If you charge $3 a day to park at a hospital that is in downtown Toronto, the lot will be filled with everyone that is not going to the hospital by 6AM.

Another serious concern is that Doctors often get their parking paid for. The Ontario government spends millions each year subsidizing doctor parking fees. Should doctors get free parking when they are already well compensated? Is it essential that they get free parking for their jobs?
06:27 PM on 01/22/2013
Royal Vic in Barrie doesn't waive one cent for anybody.
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Torontosaurous
02:01 PM on 01/22/2013
I can only imagine the high rates are to discourage people from leaving their cars in the lots for days and weeks on end while they get treatment or lie in a coma for three years.
06:29 PM on 01/22/2013
No, it's to make money for the hospital, plain and simple.
01:24 PM on 01/22/2013
I wonder if the objection to paying for hospital parking isn't a reflection of how he—and we—confuse costly perquisites with entitlements. We are so accustomed to ubiquitous 'free' parking that we don't consider how expensive an amenity it really is. Think about it: acres of land at malls, hospitals, civic buildings, etc., devoted to the periodic storage of private property. That's formidable overhead, the cost of which is subsidized by inflated prices and costs.

What's required is a more transparent, less distorted link between consequence and cost so that we're all better informed as to the effect of our actions. That and, in cases such as Mr. Froats, more discretion in where and when we subsidize parking—I agree a hospital merits serious consideration.

Mr. Froats, I'd like you to consider this: every time you park for free know that among those bearing the costs are those too poor to even afford automobiles. That's hardly fair.
06:32 PM on 01/22/2013
It makes no sense that small hospitals charge as much for parking as the big city hospitals. The difference in the value of the land huge, especially if the smaller hospital is on the edge of town where land values are loser than in the downtown.
12:27 PM on 01/22/2013
The poll with the article has a set of choices that are moronic. "No parking fees because people are emotional??"

I would have participated if there were a choice that said "Parking fee of a nominal $3-$5 is okay".