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Why Immigrating to Quebec Might Become Tres Difficile

Posted: 09/02/2012 8:28 am

Jean-François Lisée, star candidate of the Parti Québécois, embraced the same doctrine as his leader, Pauline Marois, this week when he divulged the PQ's vision on the radio (minute 7:15). The party, which proclaims to want to carve Québec out of Canada has set the objective of "maintaining a majority of native French-speaking citizens on Island of Montreal."

In 1970, 60 per cent of Montrealers were French-Canadian and spoke French at home. Lisée says Francophones may lose their majority within 20 years. What he failed to mention is that only 24 per cent of Montrealers speak the language of Shakespeare at home and the percentage of allophones who speak French at home rose 10 per cent between 1996 and 2006, rising above the 50 per cent mark.

Lisée wanted to announce the PQ's intentions in light of the "linguistic threat" on the day of the 35th anniversary of Bill 101, a law which forces French school on allophones in order to assimilate them to the language and culture of "purelaine" quebecers.

According to the Champion of the French Language, a PQ government would favour an immigrant from Bordeaux (France), who speaks French at home, over a French-speaking Shanghai immigrant wishing to settle in La Belle Province.

Analogous to the "neutral ethnicity" euphemism invented by the Bank of Canada last week to attempt to shield itself from the controversial Canadian currency ethnic cleansing, voters know that the "Bordeaux immigrant " fits perfectly in the monochromatic utopia exhibited in the official PQ song and commercial. According to France's Society observation center, the Bordeaux region's diversity is capped at just 5 per cent.

As for Francophones from China, like most immigrants from Asia, Africa, the Caribbean and South America, they most likely converse in a foreign language at home no matter how impeccable their mastery of Molière might be. Like the former Governor General Michaelle Jean named to the Ordre des Chevaliers de La Pléiade by the internationale Assemblée of French language parliamentarians, who spoke creole at home when it is landed in Thetford Mines, or multilingual MPs Maria Mourani (Arabic), Paulina Ayala (Spanish), Sana Hassainia (Arabic), Laurin Liu (Cantonese), Hoang Mai (Vietnamese), all have earned their equal place in Québec society and all deserve the same respect.

In addition, the theory that Québec should encourage immigrants who share their French lineage and their "homeland" shows ignorance of history. For example, Québec City welcomed so many English speakers -- especially the Irish -- that the city was majority anglophone at one point in the 1800s. The majestic fortification ramparts baptized Hope, Kent and Prescott testify to the anglophone presence in La Vieille Capitale. The Eastern Townships have a rich anglophone heritage as well. Not to mention the Aboriginal peoples, who migrated from Asia, who form an integral part of Québec and Canada's heritage. An immigrant from Asia is entitled to be considered on an equal footing with the fictional "Bordeaux immigrant."

Unquestionably, Québec society is the fruit of a multitude of sources, efforts and collective contributions. Moreover, Québec's future growth and strengthening within a strong Canada depends on the same plurality.

The method of assessing future immigrants proposed by Lisée can barely veil the discriminatory drifts repeatedly displayed by the Parti Québécois. This political division, this ethnic hierarchy and this neo-colonial theology fails to embody a province which proclaims itself "open to the world." Quebecers deserve better.

 

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Jean-François Lisée, star candidate of the Parti Québécois, embraced the same doctrine as his leader, Pauline Marois, this week when he divulged the PQ's vision on the radio (minute 7:15). The par...
Jean-François Lisée, star candidate of the Parti Québécois, embraced the same doctrine as his leader, Pauline Marois, this week when he divulged the PQ's vision on the radio (minute 7:15). The par...
 
 
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cinderelladressmaker
02:07 PM on 09/03/2012
I know this won't be popular but I have got to say it.
Why is Pauline and the PQ so hell bent on preserving the "French" language? The Quebecois French is a downgraded French compared to Parisian French?
My European mother who speaks 8 languages (Parisian her favourite & totally fluent in) can't even understand Quebecois French? So if you are going to all the trouble of trying to preserve something, at least let it be something real and not b*stardized!
06:07 PM on 09/03/2012
Because language is code for race.
03:13 PM on 09/05/2012
Do you speak London English? Or a unreal degraded b*stardized North American version?
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feuille derable
La République du Canada
04:57 AM on 09/03/2012
Rachel Decoste -- Well said.
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MengWan
02:56 AM on 09/03/2012
I am no "Canadien", but I speak French with myself all the time !

As one look at the world, the English (American one, eh) language is dominating everywhere, and is looking to eliminate other languages here and there ...

I find totally natural that Québec takes measures to defend its language against the domination of English !

To those who want to open to the world (of tomorrow), let your kids learn Chinese as a second language instead of English LOL
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Steve Karmazenuk
Author, Freelance Journalist, Curmudgeon
10:07 AM on 09/03/2012
Ah yes, ethnocultural protectionism. Because that's worked so well in the past, in places like Somalia, Rwanda, the former Yugoslavia, Serbia, Croatia, Cambodia, 1930s Europe, Armenia...
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MengWan
03:38 PM on 09/03/2012
"protectionism" Of course, protect yourself from the Empire !
Language is part of our soul, and OUR soul is NOT for sale ...
Among the goals of the Empire is the destruction of all cultures, languages to make the world easier to dominate.
As for your "examples", I do not see any unity, no one has changed language (except maybe - and in theory only - Rwanda) ...
Somalia still speaks the same language, its decomposition as a result of the Cold War didn't do anything (they don't speak english there now)
Yugoslavia was splitted by the West, and today Croats and Serbs which were speaking the same language use more and more different words every year but not more english (except the mafia maybe)
Cambodia still speaks Khmer, the difference is that today the second language is English instead of French !!!!
About the French language, this "protectionism" is institutionalized by the "Francophonie" and the number of French speakers in the world has risen since ...
12:38 AM on 09/03/2012
Everytime I have met someone outside the country that has inquired about relocating to Canada they already knew that Quebec was not the place to go to. Quebec's reputation for not being progressive and the french language concerns are well known all over the world. Even someone coming from France would chose Toronto or Calgary over Montreal.
10:58 PM on 09/05/2012
Progressive? Please expand on that one.
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Burlesque Lea
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06:29 PM on 09/02/2012
Soon I'll see the minorities of that province seeking political asylum down south or in other parts of Kanata.
05:03 PM on 09/02/2012
Mark Steyn hit the nail on the head, here:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/04/15/so-now-it%E2%80%99s-no-business-of-the-state/2/

"Suppose, in a few years’ time, the last elderly Anglos who still refer to Trois-Rivières as “Three Rivers” have died off and instead the streets of the province’s cities are clogged with niqab-clad francophones. Would Quebec feel it had won its battle to preserve its “cultural identity”?

"Obviously not. Which is why 95 per cent of Quebecers favour the government’s niqab ban. Even in the ROC, support is running at about 80 per cent."

Outside of the business lobbies (banks, REITs, and developers are the main groups lobbying for increasing immigration), Canadians from Newfoundland to BC are increasingly resenting Trudeau and Mulroney's demographic re-engineering experiment. There are too many non-negotiable differences in social mores and customs between Canada's host Anglo and French cultures, and Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, and Confucian immigrants to make social harmony possible. The anti-immigration backlash will only get worse.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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04:53 PM on 09/02/2012
I hate to tell you, but it's already that difficult to immigrate to Quebec. Quebec already has special powers over immigration, employment insurance and welfare administration, and several other areas of power that, outside of Quebec's borders, are the exclusive domain of the Federal government.

In a case in point: A friend of mine from here in Verdun moved some years ago to the United States, where he married and raised his family. Looking into the possibility of returning to the Montreal area, he was told that while the Quebec government couldn't "Stop him" from returning, they would not allow his English-speaking wife and children to immigrate to Quebec - they would first have to settle elsewhere in Canada, then after obtaining citizenship, would be "permitted" to move to Quebec.

This is already happening and ongoing. Immigration Quebec already favors French-speaking immigrants over English speaking immigrants. Under a Pauline Marois-led PQ government, this would no doubt become even more untenable, to be sure, but don't kid yourself - it's already long started.
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cinderelladressmaker
01:55 PM on 09/03/2012
F & F! Love your posts! Cheers!
04:38 PM on 09/02/2012
What he really said was that people speaking French at home would score more points on their immigration "exam" than those that don't even if those that don't are able to converse in French. His example was clearly bait to get a reaction so that those who do feel that french is vulnerable in Montreal feel even more misunderstood by ROC.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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05:34 PM on 09/02/2012
French isn't in danger in Montreal. It took 30 plus years for the Anglo population to gain a slight percentage increase in the GMA, and it wasn't so much because of birthrate or immigration - 'twas because the Francophone populace have been fleeing the city for the suburbs for years.
12:27 PM on 09/02/2012
Although I essentially agree with the substance of this post, I just had to laugh: a Belle Provence refers to the south of France. La Belle Province ("i", not "e") is Quebec.
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Rachel Decoste
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01:08 PM on 09/02/2012
The HuffPost editors must have thought my original spelling of the Quebec moniker was a typo and changed it. I trust they will change it back.
10:06 AM on 09/02/2012
In answer to the article and to realitytrumpsbull comment, the PQ's story is NOT about language -- it is RACISM.

The test of the PQ's 'inclusiveness' is not between an "immigrant" speaking a strange language and a French-speaking immigrant from France, it is between a French-speaking immigrant from Haiti and a French-speaking immigrant from France.

I live in Montreal and know Lebanese, Moroccan, Haitian, Algerian people -- guess what they have in common? FRENCH as a first language. Bow ask how the Quebecois have integrated them into society?: NOT AT ALL.

You see French speaking immigrants who have multiple degrees -- doctors, engineers, chemists -- driving cabs. Why? They speak French but sound black.

The PQ is a racist party on its face. It wants distinct treatment for "pur-laine" Francophone stock, and everyone else is secondary.
11:56 AM on 09/02/2012
are you sure about that cause haitians in federal elections have usually voted bloc quebecois, and as for algerians ,they have had ties with french quebec for a long time. many have married quebecoise women.you are right when you say the pq agenda is purlainisme. if not by blood at least by name.when for 40 years you come back with the same issues of protecting the language,then you know that whatever you were doing doesn t work.the kids are now learning english cause limiting yourself to unilingualism certainly stops communication and open mindedness.in the arab cultures, which have a long history of commercial trade many speak many languages.and yet they speak and write their mother tongue.so the seps are being a 5 yr old kid when they choose to limit themselves.
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Shahanshah
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08:24 PM on 09/02/2012
Lebanon, Morocco, Haiti and Algeria are third world countries with third world cultures.

Haiti is actually literally the poorest country on earth.

I don't understand where the equivalence between them and the Gaulic French come from.
10:43 PM on 09/02/2012
Because, if the PQ claim is to be believed, they *should* be equivalent -- immigrants who speak French perfectly fluently as a first language. According to Marois they should all be equally desirable; My point is that the PQ is obfuscating -- it is *not* just about the French language, it is also about ethnicity, and the 'ethnic' immigrants (i.e. black, brown, or Muslim) will never be treated equally in this Province by the pur-laine ethnic gatekeepers.
09:09 AM on 09/02/2012
As an American who speaks fluent French and is moving to Quebec by choice, I don't just feel outraged by this, I feel personally insulted. No matter how much I love and adhere to her province and its language and culture, I will never be good enough for Madame Marois.

They're shooting themselves in the foot though...a culture that doesn't allow change is a culture doomed to disappearance. And that would be a real loss.
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ljkcan
I don't let geographical borders limit my thinking
01:26 PM on 09/02/2012
It is a lovely place to live however when the PQ rears it's ugly head you just have to pray they won't get anywhere. The father of the PQ Levesque could not even get enough oui votes for a seperate Que neither could Bouchard I somehow doubt Marois will be able to bend people to her will.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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04:56 PM on 09/02/2012
The minute you open your mouth and have the slightest accent when you speak French, you will learn just how unwelcome you and all of us Anglophones (Les Anglais in the local vernacular - because everyone who speaks English is an Englishman, don't you know?) are in this godforsaken backwater.
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Gnomish
ego doctus ignarus
03:04 PM on 09/02/2012
I was born in Montreal and I would have trouble moving back to my home province.

The PQ has already stated they don't want expatiates back.
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08:59 AM on 09/02/2012
Their primary goal here is preserving their voting base. Immigrants from France are much more likely to support the PQ than immigrants from Allophone countries.
11:19 AM on 09/02/2012
Not sure why anybody would want to immigrate from France to Quebec. I would much rather immigrate in the other direction.
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Steve Karmazenuk
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04:56 PM on 09/02/2012
Yeah, at least they aren't offended if you speak English in public in France.
10:48 PM on 09/02/2012
The Euro goes a loooot further in Quebec, because the standard of living is so affordable here. (Because it stagnated in the 90's thanks to the last referendum)

Here's the irony -- the solidly sovereignist Plateau area has had a huge influx of French French buying up condos and buildings. The Quebecois HATE the French up there.

Basically, the pure-laine Quebecois do not like anybody else except themselves, which is why any immigration reform, French-speaking or no, is doomed to fail -- or at least to be deemed an 'infringement on Quebec's culture'.
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realitytrumpsbull
Two 'alves of coconut!
07:39 AM on 09/02/2012
French. Like Spanish, Dutch, and English, this is a language that became known worldwide. French is spoken not only in the upper North American latitudes, but also broadly across the European continent, and in parts of Asia. As a result of foreign trade, several wars, and the general nature of people to migrate hither and yon as opportunity presents itself and the moods strike them, French speakers today can look anything BUT 'french', or european etc. Racism: Continually, we are reminded by ugly events such as those in South Africa, that some people in this world don't get along well with those who they don't recognize as their own 'kind'. Why the friction, where does that anger, the ethnocentrism come from, why is it that people can't be civil and be as neighbors, freely and openly, with people different from themselves in nationality or ethnicity, especially if they've gone to the trouble of learning a common language, and everyone generally trying to do the same thing, get/keep a job, be part of the community, not one group violently oppressing the other, etc? The 21st century promises to be a global intelligence test. If we fail, we die. 7 billion, and counting.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
07:24 AM on 09/02/2012
Immigrants are a big reason why the PQ are never going to get Separation. People don't migrate to Canada so that they can break off from Canada. I used to live in Montreal 30 years ago, and I moved my family back to Montreal 2 years ago. It has changed a great deal...lots of new immigrants. This will not help the PQists. This is good.
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onethot
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12:50 AM on 09/03/2012
Not so sure about that. Just watched the news on RDI and apparently many 'immigrants' from China, Haiti, Algeria, etc are saying they will vote PQ. Of course, these days, it is difficult to know if the media are reporting facts or biases.
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sgillhoolley
Occupy the discussion.
08:15 AM on 09/03/2012
I would be surprised, but you never know.