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Shut up And Hook up? No Thanks.

Posted: 08/24/2012 5:15 pm

In The Atlantic's powerhouse September issue, Hannah Rosin explores the recent phenomenon of "Boys on the Side" -- the hookup culture that has largely replaced dating on college campuses, crudely claiming that "feminist progress right now largely depends on the existence of the hookup culture." Wrong. So wrong.

Rosin showcases men stuck in a prolonged adolescence that knows no responsibility or consequence, because women -- particularly successful women -- argue that they alone, can buffer their lacking relationships with a successful career and do no more than roll eyes and accept the status quo. A status quo that women -- contrary to Rosin -- neither enjoy, nor hope persists.

According to Rosin, there is "no retreating" to a time when men showed up on the doorstep with flowers, and no modern woman wants such a "retreat" anyway. Wrong again. Sure, modern women would not want to catapult themselves back to the days free of jobs, birth control and a voice, but that does not, ipso facto, resign women to a brutish, independent alternative.

As a young woman once complicit in this recent, albeit widespread, hookup culture (that the older Rosin was merely able to observe), I'm willing to make another generalization: not only are women unsatisfied with the status quo hookup culture, we are frantic because of it. We have failed to "manipulate our vulnerability." In the face of Mother Nature, we remain vulnerable. It's not as simple as wanting babies. It's a natural preoccupation with romance. In other words, we have failed to convince ourselves that this "unbridled sexual freedom" is satisfying. It is resoundingly not.

I graduated in 2011. With our diplomas and honors and aspirations for a bright future, my classmates and I also took with us memories of the "hookup culture that has largely replaced dating on college campuses." Rosin seems to think these steamy memories can be put behind, disappearing into a "series of photographs, buried somewhere on their Facebook page." They can't. The sadistic, self-serving mindset of the hookup culture leaves its mark on hearts, memories and future relationships. Sure, as young women in college, we might not have spent night's agonizing over our inevitable infertility while wrapped up in our hookup's arms, but we sure did spend many a morning revisiting these memories, wondering why he hadn't called.

Ambiguity is okay in college. It's okay not to know what you want to do with the rest of your life. It's okay to have no idea who or when you want to marry. What's not okay? Taking your expensive education for granted. Taking someone else's invaluable emotions for granted.

As Rosin notes, a hookup is, by definition, ambiguous: "'Hookups' do not necessarily involve sex; students are instructed to use whatever definition their friends use." Unlike dating, which universally implies exclusivity and commitment, hooking up requires further clarification, as it can very well be used to reference everything from a three-second makeout session to full-blown sex. In fact, to say, "we are hooking up," is basically to say that you and someone else are consistently physical with one another, with zero strings attached... but it could go somewhere... maybe.

A friend shrewdly noted that most college relationships begin drunk and in bed, affirming that "most of the time that's what I wanted -- but if someone was intriguing, we would try to sell that same beginning as romantic." Stumble into someone, exchange a few words (if any), get physical and then consider whether or not you have feelings for them, maybe. Does that sound "romantic" to you?

Virtually no one gets asked out on a date right off the bat. That's "weird." If you go out on a date with someone, it should first be preceded by a hookup. That's "normal," the extent of the hookup culture's "conventions."

So basically, there are no conventions. No one has any idea what's going on. I am not exaggerating when I say that a young woman would be unwise to assume that a guy who pursues her, kisses her or sleeps with her also in fact likes her. Actually, it's not uncommon for people to hookup with someone in whom they have zero past, present or future interest -- their only virtue being that they were simply there.

I can't speak for men, but let me assure you this is neither good for nor desired by most young women. This is not "progress." It is rapidly crushing our sense of self-worth, security and hope of finding a worthwhile man.

Yes, I've met one or two women who managed to convince me that they were happy to use and be used -- the hookup culture's necessary condition. And yes, I've met men who hate the solitary pursuit of their own satisfaction, longing for something more substantial, more long-term, more real. But to say these outliers are representative of their genders is plain wrong.

Women want a status quo that neither devalues conventions nor requires absolute independence. No matter how much we insist we are in no rush, we are -- it's a matter of irrefutable biology. Sure, that pressure and awareness might not kick in during college, but I'm feeling it now, as are the majority of my friends. It's a worry that time is rushing by.

"I'm going to be single forever," a 23-year-old girlfriend sobbed to me. "What's wrong with me?"

"I wish I could just find myself a robot bride," joked a male friend, lamenting the tiresome game-playing and seemingly endless pursuit of something -- anything-- meaningful.

Another male friend went so far as to admit, "I don't even feel sex anymore. It's nothing special. It means nothing."

Women and men have a vague, but gnawing, knowledge of what we want: a deeper human connection -- a connection that is all but rendered impossible by today's no-strings-attached, brutish, hookup culture. No one is blameless. We all play along, like drug addicts who just can't put down the needle, craving that immediate gratification. But make no mistake, we are all frustrated and exhausted "trying to catch up."

Today, young women are conditioned to keep the "more-important things on [our] minds, such as good grades and internships and job interviews and a financial future of [our] own." But what happens when we get all that stuff -- all that stuff we can, for the most part, control -- and then we realize that what we want is beyond our control? What happens when we're ready for that "deeper connection," that real adult relationship, but all the men are too busy building robot brides, looking at YouTube clips of snowblowing or leering mutely in bars, expecting us to follow the norm: shut up and hookup.

 

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In The Atlantic's powerhouse September issue, Hannah Rosin explores the recent phenomenon of "Boys on the Side" -- the hookup culture that has largely replaced dating on college campuses, crudely cla...
In The Atlantic's powerhouse September issue, Hannah Rosin explores the recent phenomenon of "Boys on the Side" -- the hookup culture that has largely replaced dating on college campuses, crudely cla...
 
 
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03:49 PM on 08/28/2012
I thank this young women for giving us all hope for the future. She has seen through the lies and misinformation of the generation that came before her and like young people of the past her generation will bring about the much needed correction away from the extremes of her predecessors.

"I can't speak for men, but let me assure you this is neither good for nor desired by most young women. This is not "progress." It is rapidly crushing our sense of self-worth, security and hope of finding a worthwhile man."

Thank you for respectfully declining to speak for men. You recognize they have their own voice and it's worth hearing. I'll take a shot at speaking for men by saying what's bad for women is bad for us because women are our partners in life and their ultimate well being is of vital importance. Of course the welfare of men should be of great to women as well.

Neither gender to follow this most cynical breed of feminist that for a generation or two proclaimed themselves the experts on gender relations. We as a culture have matured to the point where we are far better of relying on our own wisdom, than these people who seem satisfied with profiting from the encouraging animosity, and resentment between the sexes.
11:10 AM on 08/28/2012
I put this all on women. You sleep around and play games with men and you expect guys to want to form lasting relationships with you?

You cheat often. You lie often. And you blame men often.

How about you try being loyal, honest, and accountable and see where that gets you?
10:52 AM on 08/28/2012
The funniest part about women is that they have no idea how powerful they are. It's like watching babies play with dynamite. YOU asked for this, YOU demanded this, and now you're trying to say you don't want it? YOU wanted to be independent, to the point that YOU wanted men to receive no help like you had. YOU wanted to be the only ones attending college. YOU wanted to be the only ones in the boardroom. YOU wanted to be the ones calling the shots. Now you are =)

I could write you a detailed 10 page essay on all of the decisions by feminists that have led up to the current hookup culture but why bother? I get laid by a new girl each week and you don't believe that feminism could ever do wrong anyways, right? =)

Short answer:

Women don't treat men with respect anymore and you expect us to respect you? LOL

Women desperately want relationships with men but you demand that men do all the chasing? LOL

You treat nice guys like social outcasts and creep-shame them for respecting you while you throw your vaginas at jerks like me... LOL

You made your bed, now lay in it. Shut up and hook up.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
10:12 AM on 08/28/2012
The sexual revolution is when women became relatively certain they could be promiscuous in droves without necessarily incurring significant repercussion. Women exhibited what they wanted by instigating and then propagating hook-up culture and booty calls with a few men, and ignoring all the other men. And here we are.
11:14 AM on 08/28/2012
Feminism encouraged women that "empowerment" means emulating the most base qualities of men.

So they started sleeping around, lying about it, and disrespecting men just for fun.

And here we are =)
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
02:02 AM on 08/28/2012
Every encounter takes something from a person. Depletes a person. The ones that don't, aren't encounters, they're relationships.
RealistBC
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08:56 PM on 08/27/2012
It's a good thing for some women that there are plenty of other women and homeless cats.
01:46 PM on 08/27/2012
This is not a new thing. I went to college 1987-1991 and the norm was still hooking up (we called it "scamming"), there was very little to no dating around campus. And what relationships there were started out as hookups. I'm liberal (and a feminist), but I tend to agree with Dr. Laura on her view that this is a negative result of the feminist movement.... The whole "why by the cow" thing is true... Since men are able to get their "milk for free" from a plethora of available women we have feminized ourselves out of relationships/love/marriage and into hookup sex/career.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:04 PM on 08/27/2012
At least you have a chance to convince a man that you are worth him surrendering his life for you. Stop hooking up, and more men will err on the side of caution and remain aloof rather than allow himself to get involved with you.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
10:02 AM on 08/28/2012
Which men are able? I'll answer since I predict you won't: very few men can ever choose from a plethora of women. Because women choose it to be so.
10:25 AM on 08/28/2012
I do homie. It's sweet.
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Peter South
03:17 PM on 08/30/2012
That's true, the average guy is completely disenfranchised from this "hookup culture".

The average guy has what? 8 or 9 partners in his life?

That is not by choice, if it were the number would be in the 8 or 900 range.

Of course there are professional services that cover this need but they are rather cost prohibitive on a regular basis.

Again, you need a good bit of money at a minimum.
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12:00 PM on 08/27/2012
Well, see, that is the problem: most women just shut up and hookup. It does NOT have to be our only option. For me, I REFUSE to be treated with any disrespect, especially a man. But then again, I'm not desperate either. I am very reluctant to the idea of marriage and I have NO desire to ever have children. I not really sure if our present dating culture is the reason why relationships are so rare or so unfulfilling. I would imagine that about a century ago, relationships were just as unfulfilling, except you had a hard time getting out of them. However, the same pattern still exists among women: they don't respect themselves. If you're complaining about the dating culture of today and yet you're STILL shutting up and hooking up, then OF COURSE you're still going to have problems. This is not for all women, but to the women where this does apply: have some self-respect for once and close your damn legs. Really, with the culture of women today, I'm surprise that the majority of women DIDN'T agree with Akin's comments.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:05 PM on 08/27/2012
Yes, close your damn legs. Men are only interested in what's between your ears.
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01:11 AM on 08/28/2012
Thank you. This is what I'm talking about ladies,; you have better options than LoserBC, sorry, I mean RealistBC.
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Peter South
12:41 AM on 08/29/2012
I'm sure you are aware that if she does no one will stick around.

The unspoken truth is that most men and women have little in common other than compatible genitalia and the instinct to reproduce. With the possibility of lifetime domestic partnership and a loving family all but dead women now offer men only sex.

The illusion of commonality or the glue holding it all together consists of men pretending to care about what women care about and buying/doing things they don't really want to gain or keep a woman's sex and/or affection.

Let's face it, if I want a conversation about things men are typically interested in, it's easy to find a man who knows these subjects, difficult to find a reasonably attractive woman who does. Why bother if not for sex?

Take sex off the table along with all the rest and there's no bargaining power left. Men have no reason to care about women or do anything they say.
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11:54 PM on 08/27/2012
Good post. I, from a male perspective, find relationships unsatisfying as well. Like you, I am not keen on marriage and do not want to have children. I wonder if this hook-up culture is what is described above or is it just each sex getting what they want. Sexual fun without dealing with the rigors of a relationship.
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11:13 AM on 08/28/2012
I'm not really sure if you mean that you are into hooking up or not. While I'm not intrested in getting married, I don't fall into the "hook-up" culture either. I don't have sex unless I'm in a pretty serious relationship. Marriage, to me, is just an ideology where you suppose to "give" yourself to the other person, and I don't believe that I ever could. That is why I'm not "desperate" to get marry. But I don't mind having a relationship: I'm just not desperate for those either. I don't "give in" like a lot women do. In other words, I'm not going to do something I don't want to do with guy, hoping that he'll call the next day if I do. With that said, though, I don't have a problem with people "hooking-up" if that is what people want to do. But at no point should a person pressure themselves to do it, just because it seems that everybody is doing it. Seriously, people should use their brains every once in a while; it is not a "bad" thing to do.
11:20 AM on 08/27/2012
When I was younger, part of growing "into" a man was learning how to "pursue" a woman. I had to phone them and ask them out or "learn" how to start an interesting conversation. Not for a chance to "hook-up", but just to get the opportunity to go on a date with them.

Some went well. Some went poorly. But, the one's that went poorly weren't burdened by a regretful sexual experience etc...but just a lousy $15.00 wasted. The next day was fresh and new...without wondering if she would be back on my door a month later with a bun in the oven or a brokent heart.

Dating is a wonderful tradition and should be upheld and encouraged. If a man isn't interested in you for more than sex, or vice versa, it is time wasted and many times a wasting of experiences you could save for someone who cares for you.
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Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:06 PM on 08/27/2012
Dating sucks, and I refuse to promote it to my children. They can do what they decide is right for them.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
10:04 AM on 08/28/2012
Times have changed, the genie is out of the bottle. Whenever young single women want sex, they call up the same guy that they share with other women, and all the other guys are left out.
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01:38 PM on 08/28/2012
Actually, this is true. Explains my situation very well.
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08:38 PM on 08/26/2012
I agree in spirit but most fail to see the connection between the time when women were chattel and men showed up on the doorstep with flowers.

Chivalry was a gesture of gallantry made from the strong to the weak, not between equals.

Now that you've proclaimed yourselves equals and competitors that part of your life is over. Due to increased labor participation from women salaries have gone down across the board and prices higher. Now we all have to pay more for everything because companies realized two income households can afford to pay more for cars and houses. Prices went up and Fed printed magical dollar bills to cover it.

Most women don't want a man who doesn't earn significantly more than her. Given the above, the math doesn't work any more. Not enough Ken dolls for all the aspiring Barbies out there.

You had a sweet deal but now that's over.

A lot of guys simply don't care about women anymore. I know I stopped a long time ago. Basically you have reduced yourselves to flabby little male caricatures. Enjoy.
11:11 AM on 08/27/2012
how about considering us as fellow human beings, and sentient at that?
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Peter South
10:57 PM on 08/27/2012
Show me where I said women are not human beings or sentient.

I don't think you read a word of it.
10:55 AM on 08/28/2012
You are fellow human beings, equal in fact. So now you can ask us out and buy us flowers and pay for our meal and drive us home. And then we get to choose to never call you again.

There's your equality.
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03:09 PM on 08/26/2012
While I am not going to try and speak for all men everywhere, I can pass along the views of most of my personal friends. They have seen and clued into the fact that marriage in this day an age offers a lot of risk. While yes for the most part they want a partner and a family they have seen a generation of men before them get destroyed financially in divorce and child support. They have seen the fathers and uncles who thought they had a life long thing only to see mother's and aunts go "eat pray love" and just walk away. Or get "bored" with the man they married, kick him out and take him to the cleaners.

70% of all divorces are initiated by women and despite a growing level of equality, over 90% of child support and alimony is still paid by men. For every dead beat dad there is 50 or 100 guys living in little 1 bdrm apartments making huge support payments while the wife lives in the familial home.

It's not that men are afraid to grow up, or "man up" or have Peter Pan syndrome or whatever shaming language people like Rosin use. Men are just adapting to the culture as it is now and deciding it's a raw deal with a lot of risk.

Ms.Ryan and her group of friends, unfortunately is seems based on her article, are just reaping what Rosin's generation sowed.
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Peter South
08:53 PM on 08/26/2012
Yes it is unfortunate situation for the well meaning people both sexes but we can only reap what has been sown.

The idea that a woman could get bored and throw me out of the house and still be entitled to the fruits of my labor is a deal breaker and the very definition of moral hazard - not to mention slavery.

To be forced at the point of a gun or prison to work involuntarily with no reward or consideration is nothing less than slavery.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:07 PM on 08/27/2012
Now convince the law and the courts of your position. I could use a good laugh.
11:49 AM on 08/27/2012
I do sympathize with men in that respect, and as a feminist, am starting to reject the idea of marriage as a safety net for women. However, it is very frustrating for a 20-something woman, who actually wants a partner to love and have as a long-term companion, because men treat the word "relationship" like it's the scariest word in the world. I understand the risk that comes with legal marriage, but what's the risk that comes with monogamy?
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:09 PM on 08/27/2012
A woman who insists on threatening him into changing himself according to her standards. Don't tell me this doesn't happen, for a friend of mine is undergoing this torture and wants to end it but doesn't know how. At least he isn't married yet.
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Peter South
11:28 PM on 08/27/2012
Many women will do this, say that they don't need to get married. But then 4 years later, she lays down the ultimatum along with the guilt trip. "the best years of my life".

It's sort of like buying a dog, you're setting in motion the events that will lead to a day 12 years later sitting in the vets office putting him to sleep. After a couple times you may decide to stick to petting other people's dogs.

Also, bear in mind that monogamy is not a man's natural state. A man needs a healthy variety in his sex life.
11:00 AM on 08/26/2012
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“Rosin’s argument is necessary because it’s still so easy for even the most empowered, confident women to feel guilty about their sexual decisions thanks to the pervasive theory that “hookup culture” will get us in the end. As if one day all of us who’ve slept around will wake up, barren and alone, and think to ourselves, “I never should’ve had a one-night stand with that bartender! That’s where everything went wrong!”

http://jezebel.com/5937362/finally-someone-says-it-hookup-culture-is-good-for-women#

This the CLOSEST any of these writers have ever gotten to the MAIN CORE CENTRAL PARAMOUNT “issue.” But as usual, it stops short of mentioning the sole wildcard – men.

Why are they all so afraid to discuss how men think at that crucial moment when a woman leaps from that bartender, or tattoo artist, or biker gang leader to the choiceless agencyless chump whenever it suits her to do so?
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Peter South
09:07 PM on 08/26/2012
Bingo! Everyone rides for free until she hits 30.

Then some hard working average guy who never got any attention when he was in his prime because all the women his age were busy chasing tattooed freaks gets the glorious opportunity to pay her freight for little or no sex. The only sex he will see is in the courtroom a few years later when the judge sticks it to him.

The problem here is no one wants to marry the town pump and the average joes of the world are wising up. More men now realize that promiscuous women can't form lasting attachments to men.

If women want Ward Cleaver, they have to start acting like June Cleaver. The more things change the more they stay the same.

So the men have eschewed their traditional roles and women shout "you can't do that!". lol
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
02:11 AM on 08/28/2012
"More men now realize that promiscuous women can't form lasting attachments to men. "

I can't speak for most men, but this is my view.
11:05 AM on 08/28/2012
"The only sex he will see is in the courtroom a few years later when the judge sticks it to him."

I lol'd

"If women want Ward Cleaver, they have to start acting like June Cleaver."

The best response in the entire comments thread.
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Glass Cannon
Let every eye negotiate for itself.
09:12 AM on 08/26/2012
When I was younger liberation meant equal treatment and equal partnerships. Not expressions of "freedom" based on a headlong descent into the basest and brutal common denominator of crude and selfish behavior. Of course my own experience is different: where I come from (when?) men still buy dinner, and mostly shoulder the financial responsibilities. Lots of stay-at-home moms in the families that I know. Ages ranging from early 20s to middle 40s. The determining factor is that every one has a monogamous relationship and all are done post-secondary education. The difference between college and real life is like a light switch being flicked. I also live in a flyover - not LA, SF, or NYC, for example.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:13 PM on 08/27/2012
You must be well-to-do. I only know one stay-at-home mom - and I married her. She cost me plenty in return for allowing this to happen.
05:18 PM on 08/25/2012
The human ideal is that you share
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imfedup
Fight the lies.
04:30 PM on 08/25/2012
Damn, this is depressing.