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Seriously, Canadian Conservatives? RON PAUL?

Posted: 03/08/2013 5:35 pm

As Canada's right wing gathers this weekend in Ottawa, the conservative movement finds itself looking in a strange -- and somewhat dangerous -- place for inspiration.

Conservatives attending the 2013 Manning Centre networking conference will hear from the usual roster of cheerleaders, political practitioners and ideological elders. But this year's keynote is something different. A surprising guest whose ideas can only be described as completely outside the Canadian mainstream: former U.S. Congressman Ron Paul.

Mr. Paul is well known in the United States for his radical notions. Often described as the "intellectual godfather of the Tea Party," Mr. Paul takes libertarian philosophy to new heights. His positions and policies are offside most U.S. Republicans, let alone Canada's more temperate Red Tory traditions.

One need not dig too deeply to figure out why.

In a 2007 CNBC interview, Mr. Paul suggested that the US Federal Reserve should be abolished in favour of a system of competing currencies: "We can't get rid of the 'Fed' in a day or a week but we could legalize competing currencies...if people don't like competing currencies... they can opt-out and start dealing in gold and silver."

In his 2011 book, Liberty Defined, he opined that, "We need to give up our dependence on the state... it is far better to live in an imperfect world than it is to live in a despotic world ruled by people who lord it over us through force and intimidation." I am left scratching my head at this bizarre statement: which despotic agents of the state, exactly, is Mr. Paul referring to? Doctors? Nurses? Social workers? All of the above?

Mr. Paul has been particularly outspoken on a number of other important issues. As a self-described "unshakeable foe of abortion," he has gone so far as to introduce legislation "which would negate the effect of Roe v. Wade." Mr. Paul opposes gun control because he believes it "clears a path for violence and makes aggression more likely." Go figure. Mr. Paul even wants to abolish the minimum wage: during a 2011 Republican primary debate, he argued that "minimum wage is a mandate. We're against mandates so why should we have it?"

Climate change -- which all Canadian political parties have now acknowledge to be real -- is still a fantasy to Mr. Paul. He suggests that "I don't think there's a conclusion yet... if you study the history, we've had a lot of climate changes."

Mr. Paul has spoken candidly about his views on sexual harassment in the workplace. During a Fox News interview, he stated that "...if people are insulted by, you know, rude behaviour, I don't think we need to make a federal case out of it... people should deal with it at home."

And on key votes he has frequently been virtually alone in speaking against what is essentially a right-left societal consensus. On the 40th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act's passage, Mr. Paul was the only Congressman to vote against a resolution hailing the Act, and even gave a speech to Congress claiming that it "violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty."

I could go on. Mr. Paul's record of opposition to most ideals Canadians hold dear is very lengthy.

The Manning Centre is, of course, free to invite anybody they wish to their party. Even the Tea Party. But my grandmother used to tell me that "You're known by the company you keep", which seems to me a fair comment in life as in politics. Of all the conservatives the Manning Centre could have invited to be the star attraction at their annual shindig, why Ron Paul? Is this supposed to be a foreshadowing of the future direction of Canada's conservative movement? Which of his, frankly, bizarre ideas does the Manning Centre agree with? How does the Centre see Mr. Paul's contribution as being a positive addition to our Canadian political conversation?

Most importantly: Which pieces of Ron Paul's extreme agenda do Canadian conservatives harbor the ambition of importing?

Canada's conservative movement has been working overtime over the last few years to convince Canadians that they are mainstream and on a roll. It is no surprise that my organization and I disagree with both the philosophy and (alleged) facts behind these conservative arguments. By welcoming Ron Paul to Canada, however, it is difficult to see how the Manning Centre furthers even its own stated objectives.

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  • The Two Sides

    "One side doesn't give up one penny on military spending, the other side doesn't give up one penny on welfare spending. While both sides support the bailouts and the subsidies for the banking and corporate elite, and the spending continues as the economy weakens and the downward spiral continues."

  • Isms

    "Some decide what and whose freedoms to be limited. These are the politicians whose goal in life is power. Their success depends on gaining support from special interests. We don't need more isms. The great news is the answer is not to be found in more isms. The answers are to be found in more liberty, which costs so much less."

  • Government Largess

    "The insidous nature of the erosion of our liberties and the reassurances our great abundance gave us evolved into a dangerous period in which we now live. Dependency on government largess. Today we face a dependence on government largess for almost every need, our liberties are restricted and government operates outside the rule of law, protecting and rewarding those who buy or coerce government into saving their demands."

  • Erosion Of Rights

    "The PATRIOT Act and FISA legislation passed without much debate, resulted in a steady erosion of our fourth amendment rights. tragically, our government engages in preemptive war, otherwise known as aggression with no complaints were the american people. The drone warfare we are pursuing worldwide is destined to end badly for us as the hatred builds for innocent lives lost."

  • Indefinite Detention

    "It's now the law of the land that the military can arrest American citizens, hold them indefinitely without charges or trial."

  • Medical Marijuana & Hemp

    "Why are sick people who use medical marijuana put in prison? ... Why can't American manufacturers make rope made from hemp?"

  • TSA

    "Why is it the TSA is permitted to abuse the rights of any American travel by air?"

  • Drug War & Prison System

    "Why should there be mandatory sentences, even up to life for crimes without victims as our drug laws require? ... Why haven't we given up on the drug war since it's an obvious failure and violates the people's rights? Has nobody noticed that the authorities can't even keep drugs out of the prisons? How can making our entire society a prison solve the problem?"

  • Foreign Intervention & War

    "Why do we sacrifice so much getting this -- getting necessarily involved in border disputes and civil strife around the world and ignore the root cause of the most dangerous deadly border in the world -- the one between Mexico and the United States? ... Why can't people understand that war always destroys wealth and liberty?"

  • The Bailout

    "Why did the big banks, the large corporations and foreign banks and foreign central banks get bailed out in 2008 and the middle class lost their jobs and their homes?"

  • Trust In Government

    "Why should anyone be surprised that Congress has no credibility since there's such a disconnect between what politicians say and what they do? Is there any explanation for all the deception, the unhappiness, the fear of the future, the loss of confidence in our leaders, the distrust and anger and frustration? Yes, there is. And there's a way to reverse these attitudes. The negative perceptions are logical and a consequence of bad policies bringing about our problems. Identitification of the problems and recognizing the cause allow the proper changes to come easily."

  • Religion

    "Why does the use of religion to support a social gospel and preemptive wars, both which require authoritarians to use violence or the threat of violence, go unchallenged?"

  • Strangers With Badges

    "No one claims it's permissible to go into one's neighbor's house and tell them how to behave, what they can eat, smoke, and drink, or how to spend their money. Yet rarely is it asked why is it morallly acceptable that a stranger with a badge and gun could do the same thing in the name of law and order. Any resistance is now [met] with brute force, even imprisonment. This is done more frequently every day without a search warrant."

  • Monitoring Speech

    "Since 9/11, monitoring speech on the Internet is now a problem, since warrants are no longer required. The proliferation of federal crimes. The Constitution established four federal crimes. Today the experts can't even agree on how many federal crimes are now on the books. They number into the thousands."

  • Criminal Code

    "Due to the ill-advised drug wars and the endless federal expansion of the criminal code, we have over 6 million people under correctional suspension, more than the Soviets ever had and more than any other nation today, including China. I don't understand the complacency of the Congress and willingness to continue their obsession with passing more federal laws. More sentencing laws associated with drug laws have compounded our prison problems. The federal register is now 75,000 pages long and the tax code 72,000 pages, and expands every year. When will the people start shouting enough is enough and demand Congress to cease and desist?"

  • Undeclared Wars

    "Those who take us into undeclared wars with many casualties resulting never lose sleep over the deaths and destruction their bad decisions cause. They are convinced that what they do is morally justified in the fact that many suffered just can't be helped. When the street criminals do the same thing? They do have no remorse, believing they are only taking what is rightfully theirs."

  • Productivity & Creativity

    "I never believed that the world, our country can be made more free by politicians if the people had no desire for freedom. Under the current circumstances, the most we can hope to achieve in the political process is to use it as a podium to reach the people to alert them of the nature of the crisis and the importance of their need to assume responsibility for themselves. If it is liberty that we truly seek, without this a constitutionally protected free society is impossible. If this is true, our individual goal in life ought to be for us to seek virtue and excellence and recognize that self-esteem and happiness only comes from using one's natural ability in the most productive manner possible, according to one's own talents. Productivity and creativity are the true source of personal satisfaction."

  • Changing Hearts & Minds

    "It's also become clear why progress is best achieved while working with coalitions which bring people together without anyone sacrificing his principles. Political action, to be truly beneficial, must be directed toward changing the heart and minds of the people, recognizing that it's virtue and morality of the people that allow liberty to flourish. The Constitution or moral laws, per se, have no value if the people's attitudes aren't changed. To achieve liberty and peace, two powerful human emotions have to overcome. Number one is envy, which leads to hate and class warfare. Number two is intolerance, which leads to bigoted and judgmental policies. This must be replaced by a better understanding of love, compassion, tolerance and free-market economics. Freedom, when understood, brings people together. When tried, freedom is popular."

 

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04:21 PM on 03/14/2013
I dislike this article and think Rick J Smith is part of the problem with our whole society today. Media control and perception control as per usual.

Anyone with a shred of introspection about himself and the society around him should immediately realise that most of thier ideas about how society works right now comes from the state itself. Comes from manipulated history since they were in the cradle. Lies, deciet, lies, manipulation, coersion etc etc. Its been the halmark of all big govt and those that wield the power. Just becuase you were born to rationalize what we have today shouldnt stop you from... maybe thinking? Devorcing yourself from defending your preceptions for a minute and opening your mind?

I find thats what Ron Paul does. He talks about Truth, the same way people great people throughout history have done. History has had great teachers if one wants to look. And the good ones have all said similar things, things that move your soul... not your robotic, assimilated, trendy, 'manufacted identitly associated needing' self.

I think too many people identify with something thats presented FOR them. Instead of whats presented TO them.

Most people are too locked into thier left vs right mentality.... even if they pretend they understand the left right paradigm they really dont... they dont at all. The politics of party's and labels have kept us going around in circles... circles of lies and coersion.

Truth always prevails
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ProgressiveCDN
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03:31 PM on 03/12/2013
My thoughts exactly.... The fact that this guy received a standing ovation from our current government and their backers should speak volumes.

We have been deceived... Republicans currently run our country.
04:38 PM on 03/14/2013
Thats the most absurd thing i think ive ever heard. You dont lump all of the republicans in one group. And the 'war hawk step on your neighbour' (neo conservatives) are a bit different then your 'contitutional adhearing for the people libertarians'. If you dont know the difference or ever studied it, I would suggest you do so and not for 5 min.

I'm embarrassed when people are so stuck on adienties and labels they jsut cheer lead for thier "TEAM" like thier team must win even if thier team is a bit crooked.... its better then the other guys team....

its all absured really. None of those teams care about you... they jsut care about thier own power and they employ people who again work for smaller groups that care only for thier own power.

Just because Ron Paul comes to speak doesnt mean he speaks for republicans, and he even hints at his distaste for politics in general. The idea of truth and speaking it pushes him.
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05:11 PM on 03/14/2013
Right. I know the difference, but I could care less. Anti-government Republican theory, whether neo-cons or libertarians, I have no patience for the lot of them... Libertarian ideals are just a cop out. I believe in a government responsible for the well-being of its citizens. Libertarianism is just social darwinism. It's never going to exist.
09:44 AM on 03/12/2013
Typical conservatives. Talk endlessly about self sufficiency and when you get into trouble run for help to the government. They like lots of corporate welfare too. And Ayn Rand lived on social assistance for the last few years of her life. Good thing liberal tyes are compassionate.
09:41 AM on 03/12/2013
Congnitive dissonence is the term applied to the conference. And to Mr Manning's actions. By one writer. Yes, I say. That would be why he can rag on and on about democracy and then teach voter suppression tactics at his center.
12:30 PM on 03/11/2013
300 million people in the USA.
1/3 are under 18 or over 65.
1/3 are working age and not working.
Houston, you have a problem.
10:55 AM on 03/11/2013
Ah, the libertarian stream!
Ten miles wide and 1/2 inch deep.
05:14 PM on 03/10/2013
I like Ron Paul's libertarianism until last election he and his son came out against same-sex marriage equality, for The Defense Of Marriage Act (seriously, libertarians in favor of big government to regulate private lives?) and began peppering his speeches with Christian principles (again, attempt to legislate an official religion is anti-libertarian and unConstitutonal). The hypocrisy just became overwhelming,
12:05 AM on 03/11/2013
Nice try. Paul doesn't believe federal government should dictate *any* marriage law. He loves getting the gay marriage question and receives the biggest applause on campuses when delivering his patent answer, "I think people should do whatever they want and the government should just stay out of it." Paul is also staunchly for drug legalization, anti-death penalty, and pro-civil liberties. This divide-and-conquer strategy, attempting to put everyone into nice little boxes, in order to demonize one box and rally around the other, has been nothing short of devastating to the country, as while everyone stays distracted with such foolishness, elites grab ever greater power and wealth, start ever more wars based on lies, and erode ever more of your liberties.
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09:53 AM on 03/12/2013
...except he does believe the government should intrude into a woman's womb and forbid abortions.

So, he's only libertarian on the issues that are important to him.
heterodoxlibertarian
bleeding heart libertarian
04:22 PM on 03/11/2013
A lot of good points here but your problem is with the Pauls, mostly Rand, and not libertarianism as a philosophy. Gary Johnson is a much more consistent representative of libertarian principles.
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03:52 PM on 03/10/2013
I hope Mr Pauls stance of opposing imperialist agression and the building of permanent armed US fortresses around the world is one idea, attractive to his audience.

I didn't know the yellow journalists of Ontario like Rick Smith were so hawkish and neo-con in their viewpoint as to wonder why anyone would listen to Mr Paul.

If we listened only to Rick Smith, how dull would the conversation be?
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01:18 PM on 03/10/2013
Ron Paul, never heard of him, given his opinions we could sure use him to shake things up around here.
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11:13 AM on 03/10/2013
Preston Manning, Ron Paul, Tom Flanagan & Ezra Levant & walk into a bar & out walks four guys wearing Klu Klux Klan garb..
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11:41 PM on 03/09/2013
Well, the concept of earning your own living instead of relying on the state to provide all one's want and needs seems to be popular with Conservatives.
01:28 PM on 03/10/2013
This comment is an insult to all the hard working people who are not Conservative in Canada---over 60% of voters rejected the Conservative party at the polls in the last election. How dare these right wing people suggest that the rest of us don't work hard for our livings? I am a senior, I have earned my own living since I was fourteen, I raised my children to be hard-working and productive citizens, and I assure you that I would NEVER vote Conservative, neither would my daughters, neither would any of my hard-working friends. What nonsense; " relying on the state to provide all ones wants and needs" indeed. I pay taxes, buddy.
07:30 PM on 03/10/2013
I didn't say there weren't any Liberals who share that same philosophy.

But you probably needed to get that rant out. Also, I wouldn't ever rule out voting for any Party.
12:44 PM on 03/11/2013
And unless you're not taking free prescription drugs, and partaking at a rate 10x higher than the average Canadian under 50 in healthcare, you're receiving more than you've ever paid in BY A LONG SHOT. EVEN WITH INTEREST. So you almost certainly are a taker, it's just been so hidden from you that you don't realize it.
10:53 AM on 03/11/2013
Lol, I hear you have a Senate, or was it a Citizenship Court, appointment coming?
08:34 PM on 03/11/2013
I wouldn't want the cut in pay.
02:24 PM on 03/09/2013
I am so happy to see so many comments for Ron Paul! rEVOLution!
heterodoxlibertarian
bleeding heart libertarian
10:10 PM on 03/10/2013
I'm a fan of many of Paul's postions but I'm not a pure libertarian. For example, I think he's dead wrong on sexual harrassment. What's wrong with having sexual harrassment laws? I don't think the freedom to sexually harass employees is one libertarians should consider valuable.
04:14 PM on 03/12/2013
I think Ron Paul gets a bad rep because people don't understand that he isn't "libertarian or republican. " But really he just strictly votes based on the constitution. They aren't his ideas or positions, his personality doesn't dictate his votes, they are based on what the constitution says.
He isn't against sexual harassment laws, hes against the federal government being involved. According to the constitution the federal government should only be in charge of national defense and contract courts. Everything else was to be dealt by the state. This was one of the many ways the founding fathers tried to insure that the power of the country wouldn't fall into the hands of a few people. They created the US as a republic in which each state could create and have their own laws that would best suit their own needs. This level of government is where sexual harassment laws get written.
The author of this article really does not understand this.
Paul's " somewhat dangerous" inspiration?
Yeah,inspiring small government is dangerous for the few at the top!
02:13 PM on 03/09/2013
the writer of this hit piece clearly fears the ron paul message...and he should. RP has already had an influence on political leaders in the UKIP party in England and looks like Canada may be next. don't forget..there is no such thing as an 'ex-Ron Paul supporter'.
11:45 AM on 03/09/2013
The Manning Centre is a haven for evangelical ideologues who want the power to dictate how we should all live, ironic given Mr. Paul's anarchistic philosophy. But Canadian Conservatives are already over the edge, just read THE ARMAGGEDON FACTOR if you don't believe me.
07:17 PM on 03/09/2013
LOL. So in other words, you're clearly wrong about something: either Canuck conservatives wanting to dictate every aspect of people's lives or Ron Paul being an anarchist.
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Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
09:14 PM on 03/09/2013
Despite claiming to be for personal liberty, neolibertarians like Ron Paul are ALL about telling other people how to live.

On a pittance and where they won't be seen by the "superior class" of stock market libertarians, preferably.
01:20 PM on 03/11/2013
Agree completely.