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Will Montreal Students Live Happily Ever After?

Posted: 03/06/2013 5:44 pm

Once upon a time, in a magical, distinct society known as Quebec, a very small portion of the student population sought to take down their government. A Maple Spring is what they were calling for; a complete ousting of the corrupt government. Their cri de coeur was a tuition increase. Quite grandiose in scope when cited in terms of percentage, but less impressive when perceived with respect to the absolute difference in regards to the rest of the country.

These students compared themselves to the people of Syria and the leader of the alleged repressive regime running the land to various murderous dictators. Accordingly, true to the general social IQ of the average protester, Nazi comparisons were made faster than we could all muster up the term Godwin's Law.

Eventually, the government that was mired in scandal, corruption and unpopularity called for an election. The students could finally take their cause from the street to the voting booth. They found allies in the opposition parties. One seemed to truly have the protesting students' best interest in mind, they advocated for free tuition, and supported a myriad of social causes that became intertwined with the student movement.

The other opposition party seemed to opportunistically seize the moment, donning the official symbol of the protest when it suited them, and then dropping it as soon as they realized it would cost them votes from the tax-paying population.

They did, however, manage to recruit one of the integral players of the student movement. Baby-faced and even-tempered, it seemed as though he was their ace in the hole. With its demographic mish-mash of socially-conscious leftists and right-leaning separatists, even the baby-faced former protester looked as though he would emerge triumphant in a hotly-contested riding.

As these stories often go, the wrong party maintained its momentum all the way to voting day, and rode the coattails of the student movement right into the National Assembly.

Now that their political party was finally in place, the students all lived happily ever after -- except they didn't.

Last night, it seemed as though the time machine that I so often haphazardly daydream about had finally worked. After the second protest in the last two weeks following a provincial summit on higher education, everything about Montreal's current spring weather seemed to have year-old maple undertones to it, including violence, arrests and injuries.

The plight of student debt, post graduation underemployment, and rising housing costs are all unarguably quite legitimate burdens faced by my generation. Will free tuition as demanded by the Association pour une solidarité syndicale étudiante (ASSÉ) and its followers solve these zeitgeist conundrums? Unlikely.

The fact of the matter is that Quebec currently offers the lowest tuition, and consequently, has the lowest student debt burden. Incongruously, however, Quebec also boasts a higher-than-average university dropout rate and has one of the lowest post secondary enrollment rates in Canada. It seems as though the cost of post-secondary education is hardly the monolithic barrier to an egalitarian utopia that my protesting counterparts suggest.

Free tuition -- or more accurately, tuition absorbed by the already overtaxed citizen -- also inherently implies a relationship that the protesters are unwilling to acknowledge: that which is paid for by the state requires that only the truly qualified obtain it. This would put an end to Quebec's decades old tradition of granting university admission as if it were fleur-de-lis flags on St. Jean Baptiste Day.

Premier Marois and the Parti Québécois reneged on their promise to the students, that much is patently clear. In assuring the students that the PQ would maintain a tuition freeze if elected, the protesting students are right to feel like they were played by a red square wearing millionaire for political gain.

The cost this time around, however, is indexed to inflation. Increasing tuition $70 a year, as opposed to the $325 a year increase proposed by the Charest Liberals. Quebec has already once let itself be overrun by a vociferous minority. I doubt it would let ASSÉ make an ass out of itself yet again.

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  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    Scores of Quebec students were baring it all -- or close to it -- for the cause of cheap tuition. A few took to the streets of Montreal wearing nothing but their underwear May 3, 2012, in the latest protest against fee hikes. (Photo Paul Chiasson, La Presse Canadienne)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    One Facebook group cited several reasons for the unique protest. They included: catching the government's attention; the mayor not wanting protesters to wear masks; distracting police officers; and also because it's spring, they said. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    However, with a low of 14°C, it wasn't exactly balmy spring weather in Montreal. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    Protest organizers asked students to arrive at a downtown park fully clothed but carrying backpacks. From there, they planned to disrobe and march across the Plateau neighbourhood. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    They encouraged students to carry signs and wear body paint, but insisted that full-frontal nudity would "NOT be tolerated." (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    Public nakedness is illegal - something the Montreal police force felt compelled to warn people on its Twitter feed. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    "It is forbidden to walk naked in the streets of Montreal, given Article 174 of the Criminal Code," the police tweet said. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    Meanwhile, the student protesters didn't just lose clothes Thursday. They also lost a few supporters. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    Students at CEGEP de Sherbrooke voted narrowly to end their nine-week strike. There are still 150,000 striking students - which still represents nearly one-third of Quebec post-secondary students but is significantly less than at the height of the classroom walkouts. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    That said, the protest leaders are sticking to their belief that the Charest government must scrap fee hikes. The government has shown no inclination of doing so. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

  • Quebec Underwear Protest May 3

    There are now fears that the current semester might have to be cancelled. (Photo by Paul Chiasson, The Canadian Press)

 

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06:18 AM on 03/08/2013
Oh! Forgot Qc not really part of Canada.
06:15 AM on 03/08/2013
Why would Qc need to follow neocon rest of north am?
Most countries in Europe have free university tuitions.

Correlation between free tuition and drop out rate is weak rathe coincidental and related to other social issues. Which actually might mean that higher tuition could create more problems.

Anyway, its an issue of priorities and allocation. If ROC wants to buy F15s, pipelines or deep pollution infra for oil sands extraction fine, if Turkmenistan strongman wants to build a 500 m statue of himself, fine; if North Korea or Iran wants to built nuke... Well whatever... Why would it bother you so much that Qc wants to give its youth the chance to go to universit?or almost free, give kids moms
03:58 PM on 03/07/2013
you really need to do some more research on what the real costs of tuition are in Quebec, especially for out of province students.

Yes it sure is terrible that for a few months last year a new generation of young people figured out how to organize and effect change in politics. What a terrible thing to do.

Keep writing that policy! It does so much for the rest of us.
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05:28 PM on 03/07/2013
Let me by your first fan!
08:38 AM on 03/07/2013
Looking at those pictures makes me weep for the future.
07:43 AM on 03/07/2013
I think this article is a good exit point to reading any more on the subject. There is nothing new anymore, and op-eds just read like extended comment board screeds without a character cap.

I've heard both sides of the argument (ad nauseum), and most people are dug in on the issue. There is no "winning hearts and minds" in this war; it's a question of personal ideological outlook. It's not an issue that is an impending threat to life or our social fabric, and there's little reason why most Canadians should get their knickers in a bunch over it.

I wish the students, the schools and the new provincial government well in resolving their disputes. I've heard the story now, so I'm changing the channel. Peace.
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07:42 AM on 03/07/2013
I'm always somewhat amused by those who call on young voters to take part in political life of Canada and when they do and, unsurprisingly, focus their attention to closest matter at hand the reactionaries with nothing better to do start calling them names.

Along with healthcare, education is the most important item on the menu of a nation.

Who do you think will create value for today's middle age reactionaries once you enter the twilight of your life sometimes referred to as retirement?

Make education affordable and keep Canada envy of the world.
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08:52 AM on 03/07/2013
right now...quebec pays lower tuition then the rest of canada, so yeah, bring the prices in-line provincially, but yikes...what the heck is the student's business model for Free Tuition? Anyone care to show me how that works from an economic perspective?
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09:40 PM on 03/06/2013
Great disinformation Supriya!. I guess you studied at McGill.

Actually post secondary enrollment rate is 20% higher in Quebec than it is in the ROC. 50% for Quebec and 40% for Canada.
Source : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbtOSexa1yg

I say we cut the subsidies to Centre of Genomics and Policy and use the money to keep the tuition fees low.
06:09 AM on 03/07/2013
You insult her then use a political bit on you tube as your proof.
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07:26 AM on 03/07/2013
OK, youtube seriously?
If you check the Stats Canada website , you will see that Quebec does have one of the lowest enrolment rates in the country.
12:35 PM on 03/07/2013
If you check the Stats Canada website, you will see that Quebec's enrolment rate is just below the national average and its university dropout rate is the lowest, not the highest, as this article claims. A below-average enrolment rate is explained by a myriad of factors, not just the cost of education. However, all other things being equal, we know based on past experience in the province that enrolment goes down as tuition goes up, particularly in the Université du Québec network which has a higher proportion of low income and first-generation students.
07:29 PM on 03/06/2013
"Incongruously, however, Quebec also boasts a higher-than-average university dropout rate and has one of the lowest post secondary enrollment rates in Canada"
Where exactly do you get your (mis)information? According to Stats Can, Quebec has the lowest university drop-out rate in Canada (11%) while post-secondary enrollment is at exactly the Canadian average.
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10:52 PM on 03/06/2013
That's not university, that's CEGEP rates. Our high school only goes to grade 11, CEGEP for 2 years, and then undergrad is 3 years. Going to CEGEP is not going to university. Look at the actual numbers detailing the difference between CEGEP and actual university, it might help: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-595-m/2008070/t/6000006-eng.htm

Also, "According to a study published by the Higher Education Quality Council of Ontario, about 30 per cent of Quebec’s young people go to university, six percentage points below the Canadian average and more than 20 percentage points behind Atlantic Canada, where the average tuition is nearly three times that in Quebec. For Ross Finnie, the University of Ottawa economics professor and author of the study, part of the problem of low university enrolment is rooted in Quebec’s history." - http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2012/04/23/quebec-cheap-degrees-but-nobody%E2%80%99s-buying/

Keep fightin' the good fight though.
12:55 AM on 03/07/2013
I was looking at the exact same numbers as you and looking at the exact same information you cited in your article. You said, word for word, "Quebec also boasts a higher-than-average university dropout rate and has one of the lowest post secondary enrollment rates in Canada". So let's look at, first, Quebec's university dropout rate. On Table 2 of the link you mention, it is at 11% for university level, 5 points below the national average and lowest overall. Second, you mentioned Qc has the "lowest post secondary enrollment rate" which is, in the table you bring up, 79%, exactly at the Canadian average. You should have said university if you were talking about universities. I know very well what CEGEP and university are - I went to both in Quebec. As for university, it is among the lowest, but it's still only 2% below the national average. In any case there are factors other than tuition that influence that indicator. Being a university grad yourself I'm sure you understand what causality is, which also means you know perfectly well why your numbers are misleading and yet you put them there willingly. Yeah, keep fighting the good fight, or whatever you tell yourself it is.
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02:43 AM on 03/07/2013
You don’t take into account in your analysis that many programs taught in university in Canada are taught at Cegep level in Quebec. That is why you have to be careful when you compare those data.
It is true that Quebec low university enrolment is rooted in Quebec’s history. In 1965, 3% of francophone went to university, while other North Americans went at a rate of 20%. That is because Quebecker have historically been an oppressed people (still is through taxation). Oppression brought solidarity. Today we have the highest level of post-secondary enrolment in North America. The phenomenon is more apparent for younger cohorts. The whole point of the Maple spring was generational inequity. I suggest you study the economic concept of inelasticity and how it applies to tuition fees. I don’t understand why the youth in the rest of North America accept to pay like 4-5 times what their parents paid in constant inflation adjusted dollar.

If you think it’s a good idea to increase the fees by 85% for Quebecers that are 12 years old today, and then are you willing to reimburse the difference in cost for what Quebec society invested in YOUR education within the past few years so that it’s fair? Remember that part of the Quebec high debt is due to the fact that Quebec invested in your education as well as Charest’s bachelor degree. Now, only people born after year 2000 have to for all that because you want vacations?
07:14 PM on 03/06/2013
Spoiled brats want everything for free. They take after Quebec I guess. One day that free ride will be gone.
06:08 PM on 03/06/2013
I've never seen such out-of-shape students in my life. Too much poutine I guess.
06:11 AM on 03/07/2013
You haven't driven past a high school anywhere in the last 10 years have you. :-)