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Will Huffpost Quebec Help End Language Apartheid?

Posted: 02/ 8/2012 8:52 am

What better way to celebrate the Huffington Post's entry into the Quebec market than to remind the world of its segregation laws.

Quebec segregates the rights of its own residents through The Charter of the French Language, commonly known as Bill 101. The most significant of several provisions that violate fundamental human rights are the language of education provisions which divide Quebecers into two separate and distinct civil rights categories:

1) those who can choose to send their children to either French-language or English-language publicly-funded schools; and

2) those who can only send their children to French-language publicly-funded schools.

The discrimination procedure used to determine placement in either of these two civil rights categories is based upon:

1) whose one's parents are; and

2) what the parents' classification is (i.e., eligibility certificate).

This classification is handed down, generation after generation.

This regime of discrimination based upon descent violates the basic tenet of a free and democratic society that all are equal under the law.

Indeed, the language of Bill 101 used in the discrimination process described above is identical in principle to the one used under the now defunct apartheid system of South Africa. It is, in places, virtually word for word.

Quebec's school segregation laws have decimated the English language school system, and its community.

In 1970, there were 250,000 students in Quebec's English-language school system. This had declined by 57 per cent to 108,000 by 1990 and slowly edged back to 122,834 by 2003.

There is a further asymmetry of rights in this regard.

Prior to enactment of Quebec's language laws, immigrants to Quebec could freely choose to send their children to either English or French publicly-funded schools. Now they can't.

The Quebec government -- both separatist and non-separatist alike -- have been unwilling to put into effect section 23.1.a of Canada's Charter of Rights and freedoms because they refuse to enact the provisions of section 59 of Canada's constitution. As a result, an inequality exists between Quebec and all other Canadian provinces.

Immigrants from French-speaking countries, such as France, whose first language is French, can come to any of the English-speaking provinces outside Quebec, become citizens, and have the constitutional right to send their children to French publicly-funded schools.

However, immigrants from English-speaking countries, such as the United States, whose first language is English, and who come to Quebec and become citizens, do not have the constitutional right to send their children to English publicly-funded schools.

All it would take to eliminate this inequality is a proclamation by the legislation or government of Quebec.

Bill 101 has attempted to eradicate the English language from Quebec since its inception. Only numerous rulings from domestic and international courts have held Quebec's human rights violations in check.

For example, in December 1988, Quebec overrode a unanimous Supreme Court of Canada decision that found the language of commercial signs provisions of Bill 101 in violation of both Quebec's and Canada's Charters of Rights and officially suspended freedom of speech and equality rights. Then-Premier Robert Bourassa, the author of the law, bragged that "we have suspended fundamental liberties."

Tony Kondaks is the author of Why Canada Must End, which can be read in its entirety online at www.whycanadamustend.com

 
 
 
 
 
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10:36 PM on 04/05/2012
I agree with all the comments from my anglo friend who dispise the Loi 101. There is discrimination. That why it would be better to only have french schools. That way everybody would be treated equally.
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Rejean Drouin
09:31 AM on 03/05/2012
Québec Language Law is supported by Canada's Suprem Court
03:22 PM on 02/17/2012
If anyone wants to see what it is really like for English Canadians in Quebec, their home province, see how Serge Provost has gotten away without jail time yet for uttering death threats, despite a history with explosives and firearms. The court date has been set or the end of March, 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0KpIbHIVF0&feature=related (check the related videos also)
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DidiM
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05:13 PM on 02/14/2012
Whew - had to get to this page via Facebook! Looks like corrections 're 'tech problems???' are in the works. Nice to see - HP is HP no matter where it's published. Bravo Arianna !!!! Now if we can only get HP Quebec to recognize its 2.5 MILLION English speaking population and turn it into a BILINGUAL page so WE ARE INCLUDED - given we've been here in OUR Province for the same 400 years our francophone population has. Then all be be right with HP and its Foundation of Free Speech. Keeping fingers crossed.
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DidiM
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08:57 PM on 02/13/2012
VIP: Three weeks ago - Heritage Canada released its Study: They Announced the Worst Treated Minority in Canada - is the English Speaking Population of Quebec. I repeat: WORST TREATED. Enough said?? Speak up and demand you MP do his/her job - which is to 'above all' Protect the Rights and Freedoms of ALL the people of Canada. Do nothing and trust me - it happened to us - and the same will be landing on your doorstep - with no one left to help you.
05:25 PM on 02/16/2012
Naimard refuses to accept that to live without discrimination based on language is a Human Right, hence the HRCommission of Quebec processing my case, already past the investigator stage, let's hope, that after three years of fighting I get a settlement for being tossed out while revealing their internal audit failure before the $47BN+ losses in 2008.
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DidiM
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09:49 AM on 02/17/2012
The biggest "LIE" is in the Quebec Charter - it states - "language discrimination" is deemed a criminal act etc...lol. What it 'fails to make clear to the rest of the country and the international community" is: It is deciphered in QC and by Quebec Legislators and Judges and The Quebec Ministry of Justice and the police and Language Police etc... is: French is the ONLY language one cannot discriminate against - AND- discrimination against English is the Quebec governments TOP PRIORITY! I have it ON TAPE - from Quebec's Human Rights Commission - that English language discrimination claims ARE NOT accepted - unless it causes a persons DEATH and then they MAY consider it! And after calling Canada's Human Rights Office - Emailing The Federal Health Minister etc.. they ALL informed me - that there is NO WAY we here in QC can get ANY Help From them - EVEN IF HEALTH OR HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS ARE BEING BROKEN -!! Like WTF?? Who on earth SOLD ALL OUR RIGHTS TO the 75 Legislators of Quebec? They should & must be named and freaking jailed! No FEDERAL MP - or Civil Servant has EVER had the Right to freaking ERASE Our Constitutional Rights and Yet they did!
12:43 PM on 02/12/2012
(…continued)
No, all Mr Kondak wants to do is to undermine the french in Québec, to submerge them under linguistically hostile immigration!

No, Mr Kondaks does not belong to the pages of a progressive newspaper; he belongs to the same leagues as the people who instituted apartheid in South Africa!

Claiming that Québec has apartheid is disinginuous and plainly false; if this was the case, surely the very potent canadian charter of rights would have found fault with that and have cancelled all the provisions that restrict the access to english schools!!! Yet this has not been done.

In Québec, everyone has access to quality education without discrimination!
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DidiM
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09:08 PM on 02/13/2012
@Jean Maimard: Stop LYING and how dare you insult Mr. Kondaks. This is Huff Post - not LaPress - or QC media - where the Truth has been muzzled for 40 years. This is Huff Post - built on a foundation of: Freedom Of Speech - quite the Opposite of QC media. I suppose you may not be used to this kind of concept - that happens to be the 'norm' in the civilized world. You can of course deny the truth as much and as often as you like. The thing is - on HP and other like publications -- you're going to have to BACK UP what you say and/or claim with Proof! And for your information: The Supreme Court HAS made it CLEAR that The erasure of English as an Official language and all the other monstrosities that come with are: are in FACT illegal and that the discriminatory ACTIONS of the QC Legislators IS Null & Void!! That's why QC hid behind the Not Withstand Clause - that in itself has been Void for what a decade now? And the United nations has 3 times condemned the illegal (Internationally ILLEGAL as well) grotesque Language Loi's. Do some research for a freaking change.
11:17 PM on 02/13/2012
Well, if you want to back-up what you say, I dare you to prove that law 101 has violated any **HUMAN RIGHT**.
11:03 PM on 02/13/2012
Oh, so then it is OK to infringe on human rights and freedoms... and all the concerns are for nothing by these silly English people I suppose! The fact that Bill 22, now called Bill 101, sign laws are appearing in NB and Ontario is the same coincidence. Now the SANB and Language Commissioner are flouting Frenchification after establishing bilingualism. Hmmm.

10 + 1 men is not hard to intimidate but let the truth out of the bag and see what the majority says! Quebec hates bilingualism and anything of a British heritage - bigotry cannot hide in the light of day and cold hard facts!
11:18 PM on 02/13/2012
I dare anyone to prove that law 101 has violated anyone’s **HUMAN** rights.
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DidiM
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05:27 PM on 02/14/2012
Unable to reply to: Jean Naimard's: "18 hours ago (11:17 PM)
Well, if you want to back-up what you say, I dare you to prove that law 101 has violated any **HUMAN RIGHT**.

Jean: Start Here and of course there are VOLUMES of more examples. See: United nations Human Rights Agreement and The Internationa Human Rights Ageement that Quebec Legislators and Canada Federal Legislators signed to Obey and Honor: See the section that Includes Language as a freaking human Right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General_of_Quebec_v._Blaikie_(No._1)
12:43 PM on 02/12/2012
(…continued)

That is how the english managed the tour de force of making italians the ennemies of the french, even though there are seldom two cultures that are so similar!!!

By the early 1970’s, law 22 was passed, which made french the sole official language in Québec. It also provided that all immigrants must go to french schools, unless they would pass linguistic tests that would determine if they knew english so to have access to english schools.

Needless to say, that half-witted measure was a major failure on the onset!

When the sovereignist Parti Québécois came to power in 1976, following an unprecedented amount of political scandals the liberals were embroiled in, they quickly passed law 101 which strengthened law 22 by prohibiting all immigrants from going to english schools.

The only way you could go to english school was if one of your parents went to an english school.

And law 101 worked: 35 years later, the decline of french has been stopped and immigrants now are becoming french instead of english. Last night, I was in Chinatown having supper, and the restaurant was full of young chinese kids speaking french to each other.

This is the basis of Mr Kondak’s rants; he is lamenting that immigrants cannot go to english schools, to further minorize the french.

Why else Mr Kondak would want immigrants to go to english schools? Certainly, french schools do not deliver a lesser form of education!

(Contiued…)
11:13 PM on 02/13/2012
Diffuse, detract and throw around some speculative banter and even boast but what you omit or cannot seem to understand is that violating human rights and freedoms and the constitution is WRONG. Not listening to or ignoring the collective voice of an entire group of people (the MAJORITY no less) and promoting your view above theirs despite legitimate reasoning and legal expectations to the same expectations and liberties of a free society is bigotry. This lends to the supremist and resentful promotion of Frenchification - no matter what the cause or effect! ARE YOU JOKING???
08:51 AM on 02/12/2012
Mettons les points sur les i et les barres sur les t...

1. De langue et de tradition, le Québec est une société française depuis des siècles.

2. Cette société est aussi composée de gens de langue et de tradition anglaise qui vivent fidèles à leurs origines, dans le plein respect de la grande majorité de la population québécoise. Ils dirigent des institutions (hôpitaux, écoles, etc.) qu'ils maintiennent "anglophones", tout en y accueillant des québécois qui ne le sont pas.

3. Le Québec accueille en outre un très grand nombre d'immigrants, de professionnels et d'étudiants temporaires, ainsi que de touristes, provenant de partout dans le monde.

4. De nombreux québécois ont adopté des enfants de tous les coins du monde. Nombreux sont ceux qui s'assurent que ces enfants demeurent en contact avec des gens de leur pays d'origine vivant au Québec, afin qu'ils soient impreignés de la culture de leurs ancêtres et qu'il en connaissent parfaitement la langue.

Ce sont les faits et la réalité du Québec, à savoir sa vérité, comme peuvent l'attester des millions de gens qui y vivent sereinement et dans la bonne entente. Cela fait du Québec une société non pas idyllique mais une société civilisée où il fait bon vivre.

ELLE EST À PRENDRE OU À LAISSER.
12:19 PM on 02/12/2012
Good points and bad no doubt but most people can't read this post. This is all contingent on the fact that the Oath of Alegiance was here depuis des siecles aussi! Quebec wants to Frenchify the country of Canada and denies its heritage of British Colonization - therefore we must contend that Anglophone Canadians and British Subjects have rights to the French colonies of the days of the Empire. Quebec politicians admit wanting to promote its Language Laws throughout Canada to replace the constitution of Canada for Quebecs constitution.
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08:45 PM on 03/01/2012
Quebec wants to frenchify Quebec, not the whole country. Your post is kind of a mixed jumble (going back to the days of the Empire, no less!), especially that little piece of news about Quebec pols wanting to promote its (sic) language laws throughout Canada; now just where did you hear that little secret?
10:27 PM on 04/05/2012
You are crazy!!!
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DidiM
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01:45 PM on 02/12/2012
Quebec has ILLEGALLY Erased The English Language (remember Canada Embraced bilingual - making both French and English the Official Languages of the Country? And what happened then? Quebec Politicians -
10:29 PM on 04/05/2012
Canada became bilingual to appease the french population. not out of it's good heart.
04:40 PM on 02/11/2012
My estranged son is coming to stay with me in March. He is a British subject and is moving to a town that was once an English majority but now a French majority - this did not happen through attrition.

We now have French sign laws (Bill Z-22, taken from Bill 22 {Quebec's French Language Laws or Bill 101}), a French hospital, French college, primarily French commercial sector. Stipulating minority rights take precedence over majority rights is what the UN referred to as Nazi like and against UNESCO.

When there is no political representation and clear violations of even the very language laws that promoted bilingualism it is obvious that the admitted exploitation and subversion of special interest groups and lobbyists is the power (or "the Stakeholder) of this land. If we can't get the Canadian Constitution Federation to represent us we had best get our own pots and pans out soon!

I am Acadian and French and English but I am not represented by the SANB or the fraudulent and unethical funds they secure to promote Frenchification. Because I was raised to be English I am discriminated against by my own elected officials. Breaking the law and bragging about it in the media is treason. Declaring that "the stakeholder" dictates the law and not the people who voted for you is a violation of the oath of office. How much more do we need to experience before we say "Look, the evidence is there - DO SOMETHING!!"
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DidiM
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04:14 PM on 02/11/2012
@PatriotMuted. Am trying to 'fan you' and it's NOT Working. Hello Mr. Moderator - would you please see what the problem is?
04:05 PM on 02/11/2012
The 'anti-anglo' sentiment goes well beyond 'language laws' It is in fact forced segregation even for those of us who are anglo Canadian and bilingual. We remain the highest unemployed - lowest paid even after immigrants. I had my publiclly funded job taken from me by regional government officials learned I do it - they considered me 'culturally inappropriate' to work in the public domain in a place I have lived since 2003. It's social engineering. It's tribalism. Why must I be segregated ? I am bilingual. I meet all of the requirements necessary to live here. I'm Canadian from London, Ontario. My own mother is Quebecoise. Yet I am NOT Francophone and I will never be 'from here. THAT is what makes this 'attitude' discriminatory. Even when you do play by their rules - they won't let you in. Last I heard, Canadians have the 'right' of mobility. If you don't know what that it is - it is why Quebec Francophone do not encounter any problem integrating anywhere else in the country - but we do here - and nobody says a word ...
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DidiM
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05:43 PM on 02/11/2012
I also tried to fan you - and it still doesn't work. Thanks for speaking out ! The (imho) reason so few have said a word - is because too many are "Afraid to". That 'Fear' has been instilled into the psyche of 3 generations of our children and too many of us have had to endure - being called names - by our own (what's left of it - only one daily Gazette left - run by Franco Management & CJAD - the supposed talk radio - that for decades hasn't allowed caller discussion over the criminality of these loi's: except Tommy Schnurmacher who let's callers speak the rare time the issue is raised) ragtag English Media - like Angryphones or Anglo Extremists - because we dare to complain about ALL Our Rights & Freedoms having been freaking Erased! It's only since the internet and publications like "The Huffington Post" - that our cries for help are finally being allowed to surface! Our own Canadian Mainstream Media has been a total disgrace - that has DELIBERATELY Silenced not only our voices - they have silenced the TRUTH - because they obeyed their Federal Liberal politico Bosses.
07:49 PM on 02/11/2012
here, here.... unfortunately it falls on deaf ears, we are the sacrificial lambs for so called national unity... shame on Canada for not using the notwithstanding clause to veto bill 101 and remove this blight on Canadian Democracy
11:16 AM on 02/11/2012
Bonjour,

Pour commencer 40% des québécois francophones sont bilingues et sans compter ceux qui, comme moi, lisent l'anglais sans le parler; ce qui m'a permis de pouvoir de lire ce tas d'ineptie.

Au Québec nous avons deux systèmes scolaires publiques gratuits de la 1ière année jusqu'au CEGEP, un en français et un autre en anglais.

Les frais scolaires de nos universités, tant francophone que anglophone, sont les plus bas en Amérique du nord. Il y a bien McGill, une université anglophone, qui s'est essayée à charger $25,000.00 de frais mais elle a été rappelée à l'ordre.

À Québec nous avons le plus grand université francophone en Amérique, l'université Laval ( http://www2.ulaval.ca/accueil.html ), sites web en français et en anglais

Il y a l'université du Québec ( http://www.uquebec.ca/reseau/ ), sites web en français, anglais et espagnol, qui a un campus dans 6 villes au Québec.

Nous avons de grandes universités anglophones:
L'université Concordia (sites web en anglais et en français) http://www.concordia.ca/
L'université McGill (sites web en anglais et en français) http://www.mcgill.ca/

Nous avons des centres hospitaliers universitaires francophones et anglophones.

Curieusement ce sont toujours nous les francophones qui se font accusés de ségrégationnisme alors que les communautés francophones à travers le Canada ont quasiment été toutes décimées, heureusement ceci tend à changer et les communautés francophones hors Québec vont valloir leurs droits.

Bye

Christian Boutin
04:44 PM on 02/11/2012
What would you have without Canadian tax dollars funding this growth? What would you have if Canadians were to be given the full context of what it costs them for you to brag of these accomplishments? 24 million dollars for a French portal site to group French resources with not one dollar for the preservation or promotion of English culture. Shameless expectations of superiority based solely on language... nice of you to brag!
06:05 PM on 02/11/2012
Il ne faudrait pas être naîf, oui le portal francophone a coûté 24 million de dollars mais ça va certainement rapporter des revenus un publicité, comme le portal anglophone rapporte des revenus, ce n'est pas un Organisme sans but lucratif.

Et je ne vois pas pourquoi un devrait survivre au détriment de l'autre et au Québec on le prouve avec tous les services offert également aux francophones et anglophones.

Et parler positivement de soi ce n'est pas de la vantardise que ce soit un francophone ou un anglophone qui le fait.
11:44 PM on 02/10/2012
Retirez-moi ce texte raciste de là rapidement, pour l'amour...
01:40 PM on 02/10/2012
La plupart des gens se base sur des textes de loi afin d'argumenter contre la loi 101. Ces gens disent que la loi 101 ne s'appui pas sur les Droits de l'homme, sur la constitution canadienne, etc.

La loi 101 est issue de la nécessité.

Je crois que la majorité des commentaires ici permettent de justifier la Loi 101. Je dirais même que «votre loi n'est pas notre loi ». Votre loi, c'est-à-dire, celle qui vous avantage, n'est pas la vérité; où vous y voyer un avantage d'invoquer la démocratie. Et Si le sénario s'inversait ? Et si le Canada était à 80% francophone ?

Vous diriez exactement le contraire... Ce qui se passe ici, c'est que vous défendez naturellement votre propre camp. Invoquer les Droits de l'homme est une arme contre le camp francophone simplement.

« (...) vous pensez que c'est vous qui désignez l'ennemi, comme [toutes les démocraties]. Du moment que nous ne voulons pas d'ennemis, nous n'en aurons pas, raisonnez-vous. Or c'est l'ennemi qui vous désigne. Et s'il veut que vous soyez son ennemi, vous pouvez lui faire les plus belles protestations d'amitiés. Du moment qu'il veut que vous soyez son ennemi, vous l'êtes.»
04:46 PM on 02/11/2012
When you use heredity to dictate policy in education and openly violate the majority rights you are violating the constitution - only supremist and bigoted minds cannot tolerate the concerns of a group of people. Textbook and exactly why we must stop this from breaching our constitution further!!!
09:23 PM on 02/11/2012
Avant 82' , le Canada était basé sur le concept de 2 nations fondatrice. N'ayant pas signé votre Constitution, le Québec suit toujours cette idée de 1867-1982.

Vous pourrez toujours faire valoir votre Loi pour gagner votre guerre, nous fesons valoir la notre pour gagner notre guerre: la survie culturel
10:40 AM on 02/12/2012
Euh... En fait, l'hérédité, c'est pour permettre à certains de ne pas se soumettre à la loi sur l'éducation en français. C'est un privilège que certains anglos ont obtenu. Maintenant, si ça vous dérange, on peut restreindre à nouveau l'accès à l'école anglaise :-)
12:01 PM on 02/10/2012
And we like it this way. If you don't like it you are free to go live in all the other culturally identical states and provinces of USA and Canada. But, in fact, many English speaking person come to Québec to enjoy the cultural diversity and french culture. We must resist cultural pressure to become a standard american market like most major companies would like us to be. And also economical pressure to convert to low standard of living that prevail in Ontario where they like you to be a life less commuter slaves with a big houses as empty as their souls.
09:11 PM on 02/10/2012
Resisting cultural pressure??? Really?? How do you explain the "Guerre des Clan" , "Price is Right", Loft Story.... or all the Quebec artists singing in English.. How is that resistance??? so hypocritical....
08:56 AM on 02/11/2012
What? That some english concept of shows make it to our TV? What is the rest of the world Dutch? Most american show concepts come from abroad now. I don't see your point.