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Romney Got The Palestinians Right, at Least

Posted: 08/03/2012 2:54 am

Mitt Romney comes by his reputation as a flip-flopper and dissembler fairly. His tax-paying history, views on health care, record as a Bain executive -- no one, including Romney himself it often appears, knows the whole truth about him, and what's worse the former Massachusetts governor doesn't seem keen on telling us. Perhaps this is why when Romney managed this week to verbalize a theory that actually makes a lot of sense so many immediately dismissed it for the simple reason that Mitt Romney said it.

Here's what he said:

"As you come here and you see the GDP per capita, for instance, in Israel, which is about $21,000, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality.

"Culture makes all the difference. And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things."



Call it what you want -- bald-faced pandering to rich Jewish donors and pro-Israel voters (a lot of whom, by the way, aren't actually Jews), or even racist, which is how the Palestinian government's Saeb Erakat termed it -- but the Republican candidate's comment during a speech in Jerusalem about the primacy of Israeli culture as compared to Palestinian culture was a fair point.

He didn't tell the whole story, of course -- Romney conveniently left out the not-insubstantial part about how Israel's control of many (but not all -- the Jewish state does not encircle Palestinian territories after all) points of entry into the West Bank and Gaza restricts Palestinians' freedom of movement and makes the passage of supplies much, much more difficult (it also, we must note, makes the passage of terrorist-related goods and services more difficult).

But Israel is only part of the Palestinians' problem -- and not even the most significant one facing that long-suffering people, as I will now show you.

A thought-experiment: suppose starting today Israel doesn't exist. There are no Jews in the Middle East (to avoid things getting too heavy here let's just say each Jew in Israel received a can't-miss job offer in North America and decided it was in his/her best interest to relocate, irrespective of the situation on the ground). The Palestinians have control of Gaza, the West Bank, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa and Hebron. No more border crossings, no more blockades.

What happens next?

The knee-jerk reaction is to say problem solved, but take a moment and you'll realize that's not really true. Because the Palestinians still have to deal with their own culture, the very thing Romney was alluding to.

There would still be two terrorist groups vying for power -- and with Israel gone, whom would Fatah and Hamas have to fight but each other (even more than they do now)? There would still be a broken bureaucracy which gives no indication it is interested in democratic reform (I'm always amused when the aforementioned Palestinian "chief negotiator," or whatever he's being called these days, Mr. Erakat makes the news, as he did responding to Romney -- this guy's dizzying career of joining, quitting and rejoining Palestinian government, such as it is, reeks of cronyism) or constructing a viable economy. And, as the horrifying news this week of a woman murdered by her abusive husband -- he slit her throat in a public market in Bethlehem -- for the crime of seeking a divorce proves, there are some pretty gruesome, backward human rights habits festering on the Palestinian street.

Could the Palestinians change? Sure they could (and more people than they think hope they will). But there are no guarantees. As the various iterations of the Arab Spring are proving, bold grassroots campaigns (of which there are some in the Palestinian territories) can get the ball rolling, but evil, inept leaders can be damn tough to unseat (see Assad, Bashar), and even in those cases where they are banished there are new tyrants to deal with (see military rulers, Egypt). And if you can get rid of those bad guys, too, there are still deep sectarian gulfs to bridge -- and this, as we're seeing now in Iraq, may actually be the toughest nut to crack.

But yes, it can be done, even in the Middle East. A strong political culture, founded on human rights, honest governance (an oxymoron, but you get the point) and the prospect of collective and individual prosperity can be built, and if you want proof I'll give it to you. It's Israel, obviously. A country composed of disparate peoples who for the most part believe in the same god but believe in him in widely divergent ways that are deeply at odds with each other oftentimes. Whose founders' solution to being oppressed was to create a fully-functioning democracy. Who share a border with a sworn enemy yet manage not to be consumed by rage and militarism, have built an oasis in the desert and developed a burgeoning modern economy.

This is what Mitt Romney, and I too, call a winning culture. And if the Palestinians seriously aspire to a land of their own, that is where they must start. By building a national political culture that will impress on the world -- and more importantly on themselves -- that they can indeed handle running their own show.

It's an uncomfortable theory, I'll grant you that, but it's the truth. And honesty, even when it comes from the mouth of Mitt Romney, is still honesty.

 

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AlwaysCanadian
Lifelong Pacifist
02:21 PM on 08/06/2012
Ok, lets say for the sake of argument that the Palestinian culture is inferior to Israeli. How does that justify the atrocities that are being committed against them in the occupied territories?

And, by the same token, is there any culture is superior to that of the Israeli's, and, to use this articles logic, shouldn't that justify oppression against the Israeli's? Don't forget the Nazi claimed to be the superior culture : There is a obvious lesson to be learnt here.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
01:04 PM on 08/06/2012
A few more recent attacks against occupied Palestinians:

http://rhr.org.il/eng/index.php/2012/08/olive-trees-uprooted-near-havat-maon/
Rabbis for Human Rights - August 8/12
Olive Trees Uprooted Near Havat Maon

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s7UbsqY9sAFNf2Oxpfh3vj6VsTSv%2fGoEtCRrESQocGqS5uyA0%2f7phVzKiZYKSXZsdiB47hnO23IXdlTmtflTbxZJU1Ji%2fm06D3eD9R2qGwzJM%3d
Dozens injured including child in Israeli police assault on Jerusalemites

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s7rQ4iFBb8wqb6O8VNIKkKbToUdL3SEogszz6ZpCFGD%2fkpie3GdXm3nnRo80ZlDdAMXTfQfsDRXaWZ9l0m4zl9ol8pVIqj4MZ4DeysnWUlKHM%3d
Several injuries in peaceful marches against settlement in W. Bank

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=509775
8 injured as settlers stone bus carrying worshipers

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s75eI3IV0E%2bb0wYV%2fWWVK%2bp%2fc3e7ZuEdpSOV1II4XtNXTwvssJJ4IGcG1gVAoEEh%2be1RnuXPBbdQFi%2f9M7hGXyURPB9n11QmbtMJH5OItBZpU%3d
Jewish settlers attack Palestinian vehicles near Ramallah

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/lambs-to-the-settlers-slaughter-screaming-and-unheard.premium-1.455937
"There were more than 50 reports of Israelis assaulting Palestinians in the West Bank last month. In the start of a regular series, Haaretz details one particularly violent attack"
12:25 PM on 08/06/2012
The point is not about what R said is right or wrong (and he was in fact wrong on the actual numbers). These type of remarks only add insult to injury and deepen resentment. It shows a lack of insight, compassion, tact and diplomacy and weakens the credibility of the US as a potential peace broker.
These remarks are simply designed to stroke the ego of Israel. The fact Romney picked culture is probably due to the fact that the height of the orange trees in Israel aren't to his liking.
09:46 AM on 08/06/2012
Israel is not a winning culture. It survives thanks to the generosity of the US. It is a welfare state, sucking up more aid from America than any country.
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davidwgray08
03:27 AM on 08/06/2012
Well, Yoni the Jew has concocted some very interesting points to back up his claim: Israel controls only some of the entry points into the West Bank (please, pray tell, what entry points are controlled by any other entity?), and he writes of Palestinian domestic abuse/murder without any regard to the same kinds of nastiness committed by Haredi/orthodox Jews in Israel proper (if you're gonna compare, do it right - and as if a man murdering his wife is reason to suggest a basis for 'cultural differences' that correlate with economic growth).

Fact of the matter is that for the last 40 years, Israel has completely controlled what kind of economic opportunities those in the West Bank COULD even have. To suggest that they would remain mired in stagnation and corruption if Israel suddenly disappeared is not only backed up by straw-man arguments here, it's totally fallacious to do so forgetting the drastic effect that the 40 year occupation has had on their 'culture' and 'mentality', nevermind the direct consequences it's had on chances for economic prosperity.

Yoni, you should change your writing and just start covering Hollywood celebrities, you don't have to put any serious and informed perspective into your thoughts. You don't even have to come up with real arguments! It's much more of your element!

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01:14 AM on 08/06/2012
A common sense antidote to Yoni:

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/trapped.html
12:23 PM on 08/05/2012
A specification from today's BBC Website ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19136129 ):

All entry points into the West Bank require Israeli permission.
09:47 AM on 08/06/2012
AND the Israelis control access to Gaza, even from the sea.
03:39 AM on 08/05/2012
Frankly the author of this article disgusts me and his thought process is horrendous and might give insight into why most Israeli`s happily do horrendous acts to the Palestinians and then rationalize it by saying they are better then them.
09:42 AM on 08/05/2012
Which "horrendous acts", specifically, are you referring to?
11:17 AM on 08/05/2012
Do you live under a rock or in a cave?
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arachne646
No more hurting people--Peace
11:18 AM on 08/05/2012
How about attacking Gaza, and leaving it as an open-air prison for civilians? Or routinely arresting Palestinian children without reason, just to terrorize the population?
12:31 AM on 08/05/2012
Stunningly flawed thought experiment. Let's have one culture do a multitude of things over decades to completely screw another culture. Then criticize that culture for being screwed up.
By the way, you can read many articles written by Israelis about how their culture is becoming more terrible. Those articles are not so often published in North American media though.
Also, how much of that superior GDP of Israelis is courtesy of foreign contribution? U.S. gives about 3.5 Billion a year, maybe more.
09:43 AM on 08/05/2012
"U.S. gives about 3.5 Billion a year, " which is given as a military grant, to be spent in the U.S., making up less than 1% of Israel's total budget.
11:17 AM on 08/05/2012
Which is about $550/capita. Even Canada doesn't give its citizen that much grant a year let along a foreign country.
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11:28 AM on 08/05/2012
When military grants are given to other countries, the stipulation is that it all be spent on US shareholders. This is not the case with Israel. Several critical details distinguish the US-Israel arrangement.

Paid in advance, interest earning, indexed to inflation. A large part can be spent in Israel. Guaranteed by law for at least five more years. This is about 16% of Israel's military budget -- that does not have to be raised through taxation or debt. (Israel's GDP is about the size of Nigeria's.)

This is aside from ad hoc military grants like the $240 million US that was used to set up the Iron Dome system.

It's a massive transfer of money from US taxpayers to Israelis and military equipment manufacturer's shareholders -- whoever they might be. It's for suckers.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
12:43 PM on 08/06/2012
"[Y]ou can read many articles written by Israelis about how their culture is becoming more terrible."
Indeed! Here's a quotation from one such article.

Adi Ophir, philosophy professor at Tel Aviv University: "...the adoption of the political forms of
an ethnocentric and racist nation-state in general, are turning Israel into the most dangerous place in the world for the humanity and morality of the Jewish community, for the continuity of Jewish cultures and perhaps for Jewish existence itself."
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dredesch
10:57 PM on 08/04/2012
Are we talking about two cultures competing equally on a level playing field here? Or are we talking about a heavily subsidized Israel using force to turn Gaza in what is effectively the biggest refugee camp in the world? And when the state can't do it officially, "colonists" come in to the picture.

Israel's vaunted democracy treats its jewish and arabic citizens very differently in terms of residence or property rights. They are also poorer and it is pretty obvious that collective and individual economic success is being shared a little unequally along ethnic and religious lines.

To call Romney's comment "fair" is, at the least, disingenuous. At worst, it is a repugnant piece of disinformation. Israel's entire policy so far has been to choke any kind of economic development in Palestinian areas. The Palestinian's lot is to work in Israeli factories, enriching Israeli owners and senior staff so you can have that nice $21,000 while the Palestinians have half that.
10:00 AM on 08/05/2012
"heavily subsidized Israel"
You mean the US $3 B military grant that Israel must spend in the U.S.?

"using force to turn Gaza "
You mean finally responding in 2009, after 10 years of 14,000 rockets fired at Israeli civilians? Or do you mean handing Gaza over to the Palestinians with infrastructure intact, to begin their "state" - infrastructure they immediately destroyed, and exponentially increased rocket fire against Israeli civilians, instead?

"Israel's vaunted democracy treats its jewish and arabic citizens very differently in terms of residence or property rights."
Show specifically how.

"They are also poorer "
Because, as in the haredi culture, so in the Arab culture, the men don't work, and the women stay at home.

" Israel's entire policy so far has been to choke any kind of economic development in Palestinian areas. " The Palestinians will have to co-ordinate with the Israelis if they want to move forward. This they refuse to do.

"enriching Israeli owners and senior staff so you can have that nice $21,000 while the Palestinians have half that."
Great explanation. Now explain the abysmally low GDP in Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Yemen, Sudan, etc.
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dredesch
07:12 PM on 08/05/2012
I'm going to try to be as fair as possible here. Technically, Israeli law gives the same rights to all its citizens. Israeli Arabs are also marginally better off than citizens of surrounding countries.

However, this does not change the fact that the Israeli spends three times more on Jewish students than Arab. It doesn't take away the Law of return that denies Palestinians right to return to their old lands but guarantees it for Jews. It doesn't take away the Jewish National Fund and the differential treatment for Jews and Arabs in owning/leasing land. It doesn't take away the occupation of land by colonists on shaky or dubious legal grounds.

You can find plenty of reputable journalistic and academic sources to detail the differential treatment of Palestinians in Israeli society. They are 20% of the population represented by 10% of Knesset members and constitute no more than 5-6% of the civil service. Employment discrimination is well documented, compounded by the differences in the educational system.

None of this is easy to change. Government coalitions have for a long time been beholden to Israel's own brand of Jewish fundamentalist parties that have been major impediments to any solution of the broader issues of Israeli coexistence with its Arab neighbors and its indigenous Arab population.
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gnorrfa
Freedom's nothing else Toulouse
12:47 PM on 08/05/2012
Shoving people onto a dry, useless piece of land and bombing and strafing it incessantly, restricting imports and constantly monitoring every item before it gets of the ship, Gaza is a Palestinian concentration camp that could never offer a challenge to Israel and they know it, and that's the way they want it.
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richard in obihiro
translator
08:52 PM on 08/04/2012
In your little thought experiment, you assume Fatah and Hamas would still exist. Why? By what twist of the mind are you assuming these two groups would have come into existence in the absence of Israel?
Ask yourself: if the roles had been reversed, what do you think the chances are that groups led by the likes of Moshe Dayan would NOT have turned into "terrorists" groups?
And why do you assume Palestinians would have been unable to evolve with the rest of the world and improve their bureaucracy over the last 60 years if they had not been forced out of their homes? Plenty of people in the world have greatly improved their lot when political conditions improved in their country. But for Palestinians, conditions not of their own making deteriorated instead of improving. Pretty difficult to "buil[d] an oasis in the desert" when the olive groves you're trying to plant are being uprooted or the houses you're trying to build are being demolished because you lack the necessary "permits."
You're going to have to come up with a much better scenario to "prove" that the Palestinians' inferior culture is solely at fault for today's grim conditions in which they live.
10:03 AM on 08/05/2012
The author may have been looking at what has been going on in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Nigeria, Mali, Indonesia, Sudan, Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Philippines, etc. and that may have "twisted" his mind.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
11:54 AM on 08/06/2012
You're fooling no one. You're just another two-bit racist and hasbara puppet. Thankfully, the world sees through you and your ilk.
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Frnkndad
08:30 PM on 08/04/2012
Once again, despite all the evidence Israel can do no wrong.
08:02 PM on 08/04/2012
I'm stunned. This bigot is allowed to publish opinions about Palestinians that would never see the light if they were statements made about Israelis/Jews.

I've been pretty dismayed at the quality of the H. Post (How much sensationalistic garbage, bad writing, and celebrity gossip can one take without gagging?) for quite some time now. But, this blatant racism crossed the line. Goodbye HP.
10:04 AM on 08/05/2012
"“Prejudice is a great time saver. You can form opinions without having to get the facts.”"
Bye, Linda.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
11:54 AM on 08/06/2012
Yet another feeble response.
07:21 PM on 08/04/2012
This argument did not originate with me, but the per capita GDP of several arab countries, such as Saudi Arabia, is higher that that of Isreal. By Romney's logic Saudi (arab) culture must be superior. The notion that the merit of a culture is measured by GDP is moronic.
06:59 PM on 08/04/2012
Such a disingenuous article from the core that even Israeli supporters like myself are embarrassed. Mr. Goldstein you wrote "A strong political culture, founded on human rights, honest governance (an oxymoron, but you get the point) and the prospect of collective and individual prosperity can be built, and if you want proof I'll give it to you. It's Israel, obviously." You forgot to mention that the first two prime ministers of Israel were IRGUN members. Yes a majority of people at the start of Israel had these views...when it came to fellow jews, the Palestinians on the other hand were held to different standards and were pushed out of the 1948 line to the 1967 lines.

Mr. Goldstein, Israel is losing the PR war. Ive have noticed it on youtube and other news sites. Its simply a fact that even jews is US (who are staunch liberals) have a hard time defending it. So next time please write a fair article. Have you mentioned the fact that a foreigner would have to be almost crazy to invest in Palestine the water, electricity, imports, exports, air, land and sea transport are controlled by IDF. h yeah and not to mention the checkpoints dotted on every street that makes it almost impossible to move down a street let alone have a successful business running.
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10:55 PM on 08/04/2012
Ben-Gurion was a member of Haganah and was a major force in stopping and rehabilitating the Irgun forces into the Haganah.
If you remember, the Haganah actually literally shot at Irgun fighters and supply ships before that.
It is no different than the rehabilitation of the IRA, but Irgun was always a much smaller minority in positions of power than the IRA in modern Ireland.

So I agree with you in general, but enough about the Irgun.
I hated Begin too, but thats not the point
11:24 AM on 08/05/2012
That is the point, hypocrisy on Israel's side. The country has been reduced from a country of nobel prize winners in Science and math to a pariah state with no friends except for the US. Why is that? Doesn't that concern you? This believe in Israel that we can go it alone or us against the world is disastrous for Israel.