Mitt Romney comes by his reputation as a flip-flopper and dissembler fairly. His tax-paying history, views on health care, record as a Bain executive -- no one, including Romney himself it often appears, knows the whole truth about him, and what's worse the former Massachusetts governor doesn't seem keen on telling us. Perhaps this is why when Romney managed this week to verbalize a theory that actually makes a lot of sense so many immediately dismissed it for the simple reason that Mitt Romney said it.
"As you come here and you see the GDP per capita, for instance, in Israel, which is about $21,000, and compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality."Culture makes all the difference. And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things."
But Israel is only part of the Palestinians' problem -- and not even the most significant one facing that long-suffering people, as I will now show you.
A thought-experiment: suppose starting today Israel doesn't exist. There are no Jews in the Middle East (to avoid things getting too heavy here let's just say each Jew in Israel received a can't-miss job offer in North America and decided it was in his/her best interest to relocate, irrespective of the situation on the ground). The Palestinians have control of Gaza, the West Bank, Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa and Hebron. No more border crossings, no more blockades.
What happens next?
The knee-jerk reaction is to say problem solved, but take a moment and you'll realize that's not really true. Because the Palestinians still have to deal with their own culture, the very thing Romney was alluding to.
There would still be two terrorist groups vying for power -- and with Israel gone, whom would Fatah and Hamas have to fight but each other (even more than they do now)? There would still be a broken bureaucracy which gives no indication it is interested in democratic reform (I'm always amused when the aforementioned Palestinian "chief negotiator," or whatever he's being called these days, Mr. Erakat makes the news, as he did responding to Romney -- this guy's dizzying career of joining, quitting and rejoining Palestinian government, such as it is, reeks of cronyism) or constructing a viable economy. And, as the horrifying news this week of a woman murdered by her abusive husband -- he slit her throat in a public market in Bethlehem -- for the crime of seeking a divorce proves, there are some pretty gruesome, backward human rights habits festering on the Palestinian street.
Could the Palestinians change? Sure they could (and more people than they think hope they will). But there are no guarantees. As the various iterations of the Arab Spring are proving, bold grassroots campaigns (of which there are some in the Palestinian territories) can get the ball rolling, but evil, inept leaders can be damn tough to unseat (see Assad, Bashar), and even in those cases where they are banished there are new tyrants to deal with (see military rulers, Egypt). And if you can get rid of those bad guys, too, there are still deep sectarian gulfs to bridge -- and this, as we're seeing now in Iraq, may actually be the toughest nut to crack.
But yes, it can be done, even in the Middle East. A strong political culture, founded on human rights, honest governance (an oxymoron, but you get the point) and the prospect of collective and individual prosperity can be built, and if you want proof I'll give it to you. It's Israel, obviously. A country composed of disparate peoples who for the most part believe in the same god but believe in him in widely divergent ways that are deeply at odds with each other oftentimes. Whose founders' solution to being oppressed was to create a fully-functioning democracy. Who share a border with a sworn enemy yet manage not to be consumed by rage and militarism, have built an oasis in the desert and developed a burgeoning modern economy.
This is what Mitt Romney, and I too, call a winning culture. And if the Palestinians seriously aspire to a land of their own, that is where they must start. By building a national political culture that will impress on the world -- and more importantly on themselves -- that they can indeed handle running their own show.
It's an uncomfortable theory, I'll grant you that, but it's the truth. And honesty, even when it comes from the mouth of Mitt Romney, is still honesty.
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And, by the same token, is there any culture is superior to that of the Israeli's, and, to use this articles logic, shouldn't that justify oppression against the Israeli's? Don't forget the Nazi claimed to be the superior culture : There is a obvious lesson to be learnt here.
http://rhr.org.il/eng/index.php/2012/08/olive-trees-uprooted-near-havat-maon/
Rabbis for Human Rights - August 8/12
Olive Trees Uprooted Near Havat Maon
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s7UbsqY9sAFNf2Oxpfh3vj6VsTSv%2fGoEtCRrESQocGqS5uyA0%2f7phVzKiZYKSXZsdiB47hnO23IXdlTmtflTbxZJU1Ji%2fm06D3eD9R2qGwzJM%3d
Dozens injured including child in Israeli police assault on Jerusalemites
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s7rQ4iFBb8wqb6O8VNIKkKbToUdL3SEogszz6ZpCFGD%2fkpie3GdXm3nnRo80ZlDdAMXTfQfsDRXaWZ9l0m4zl9ol8pVIqj4MZ4DeysnWUlKHM%3d
Several injuries in peaceful marches against settlement in W. Bank
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=509775
8 injured as settlers stone bus carrying worshipers
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/En/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2bi1s75eI3IV0E%2bb0wYV%2fWWVK%2bp%2fc3e7ZuEdpSOV1II4XtNXTwvssJJ4IGcG1gVAoEEh%2be1RnuXPBbdQFi%2f9M7hGXyURPB9n11QmbtMJH5OItBZpU%3d
Jewish settlers attack Palestinian vehicles near Ramallah
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/lambs-to-the-settlers-slaughter-screaming-and-unheard.premium-1.455937
"There were more than 50 reports of Israelis assaulting Palestinians in the West Bank last month. In the start of a regular series, Haaretz details one particularly violent attack"
These remarks are simply designed to stroke the ego of Israel. The fact Romney picked culture is probably due to the fact that the height of the orange trees in Israel aren't to his liking.
Fact of the matter is that for the last 40 years, Israel has completely controlled what kind of economic opportunities those in the West Bank COULD even have. To suggest that they would remain mired in stagnation and corruption if Israel suddenly disappeared is not only backed up by straw-man arguments here, it's totally fallacious to do so forgetting the drastic effect that the 40 year occupation has had on their 'culture' and 'mentality', nevermind the direct consequences it's had on chances for economic prosperity.
Yoni, you should change your writing and just start covering Hollywood celebrities, you don't have to put any serious and informed perspective into your thoughts. You don't even have to come up with real arguments! It's much more of your element!
#articlepleasingtothelowestcommondenominator
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/trapped.html
All entry points into the West Bank require Israeli permission.
By the way, you can read many articles written by Israelis about how their culture is becoming more terrible. Those articles are not so often published in North American media though.
Also, how much of that superior GDP of Israelis is courtesy of foreign contribution? U.S. gives about 3.5 Billion a year, maybe more.
Paid in advance, interest earning, indexed to inflation. A large part can be spent in Israel. Guaranteed by law for at least five more years. This is about 16% of Israel's military budget -- that does not have to be raised through taxation or debt. (Israel's GDP is about the size of Nigeria's.)
This is aside from ad hoc military grants like the $240 million US that was used to set up the Iron Dome system.
It's a massive transfer of money from US taxpayers to Israelis and military equipment manufacturer's shareholders -- whoever they might be. It's for suckers.
Indeed! Here's a quotation from one such article.
Adi Ophir, philosophy professor at Tel Aviv University: "...the adoption of the political forms of
an ethnocentric and racist nation-state in general, are turning Israel into the most dangerous place in the world for the humanity and morality of the Jewish community, for the continuity of Jewish cultures and perhaps for Jewish existence itself."
Israel's vaunted democracy treats its jewish and arabic citizens very differently in terms of residence or property rights. They are also poorer and it is pretty obvious that collective and individual economic success is being shared a little unequally along ethnic and religious lines.
To call Romney's comment "fair" is, at the least, disingenuous. At worst, it is a repugnant piece of disinformation. Israel's entire policy so far has been to choke any kind of economic development in Palestinian areas. The Palestinian's lot is to work in Israeli factories, enriching Israeli owners and senior staff so you can have that nice $21,000 while the Palestinians have half that.
You mean the US $3 B military grant that Israel must spend in the U.S.?
"using force to turn Gaza "
You mean finally responding in 2009, after 10 years of 14,000 rockets fired at Israeli civilians? Or do you mean handing Gaza over to the Palestinians with infrastructure intact, to begin their "state" - infrastructure they immediately destroyed, and exponentially increased rocket fire against Israeli civilians, instead?
"Israel's vaunted democracy treats its jewish and arabic citizens very differently in terms of residence or property rights."
Show specifically how.
"They are also poorer "
Because, as in the haredi culture, so in the Arab culture, the men don't work, and the women stay at home.
" Israel's entire policy so far has been to choke any kind of economic development in Palestinian areas. " The Palestinians will have to co-ordinate with the Israelis if they want to move forward. This they refuse to do.
"enriching Israeli owners and senior staff so you can have that nice $21,000 while the Palestinians have half that."
Great explanation. Now explain the abysmally low GDP in Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia, Yemen, Sudan, etc.
However, this does not change the fact that the Israeli spends three times more on Jewish students than Arab. It doesn't take away the Law of return that denies Palestinians right to return to their old lands but guarantees it for Jews. It doesn't take away the Jewish National Fund and the differential treatment for Jews and Arabs in owning/leasing land. It doesn't take away the occupation of land by colonists on shaky or dubious legal grounds.
You can find plenty of reputable journalistic and academic sources to detail the differential treatment of Palestinians in Israeli society. They are 20% of the population represented by 10% of Knesset members and constitute no more than 5-6% of the civil service. Employment discrimination is well documented, compounded by the differences in the educational system.
None of this is easy to change. Government coalitions have for a long time been beholden to Israel's own brand of Jewish fundamentalist parties that have been major impediments to any solution of the broader issues of Israeli coexistence with its Arab neighbors and its indigenous Arab population.
Ask yourself: if the roles had been reversed, what do you think the chances are that groups led by the likes of Moshe Dayan would NOT have turned into "terrorists" groups?
And why do you assume Palestinians would have been unable to evolve with the rest of the world and improve their bureaucracy over the last 60 years if they had not been forced out of their homes? Plenty of people in the world have greatly improved their lot when political conditions improved in their country. But for Palestinians, conditions not of their own making deteriorated instead of improving. Pretty difficult to "buil[d] an oasis in the desert" when the olive groves you're trying to plant are being uprooted or the houses you're trying to build are being demolished because you lack the necessary "permits."
You're going to have to come up with a much better scenario to "prove" that the Palestinians' inferior culture is solely at fault for today's grim conditions in which they live.
I've been pretty dismayed at the quality of the H. Post (How much sensationalistic garbage, bad writing, and celebrity gossip can one take without gagging?) for quite some time now. But, this blatant racism crossed the line. Goodbye HP.
Bye, Linda.
Mr. Goldstein, Israel is losing the PR war. Ive have noticed it on youtube and other news sites. Its simply a fact that even jews is US (who are staunch liberals) have a hard time defending it. So next time please write a fair article. Have you mentioned the fact that a foreigner would have to be almost crazy to invest in Palestine the water, electricity, imports, exports, air, land and sea transport are controlled by IDF. h yeah and not to mention the checkpoints dotted on every street that makes it almost impossible to move down a street let alone have a successful business running.
If you remember, the Haganah actually literally shot at Irgun fighters and supply ships before that.
It is no different than the rehabilitation of the IRA, but Irgun was always a much smaller minority in positions of power than the IRA in modern Ireland.
So I agree with you in general, but enough about the Irgun.
I hated Begin too, but thats not the point