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Deepak Obhrai is trying to make a point.
Canada has changed. Young people and immigrants understand that, the Conservative candidate tells The Huffington Post Canada over lunch at the Fairmont ChĂąteau Laurier hotel, a stoneâs throw away from Parliament Hill. But the Toriesâ base seems unable to accept it, he suggests.
âThis party has to be the party of the future, not of the past,â he says, tapping his finger against the table. âIf we want to be a party of the past, we will become a protest party.â
Deepak Obhrai is the longest serving Conservative MP in Parliament.
The 2015 Conservative election campaign, with its âbarbaric practicesâ tip line, pledge to deport dual citizens convicted of terrorism, and re-emphasis on banning niqabs during citizenship ceremonies, reversed many of the gains the Tories â primarily Obhrai and former cabinet minister Jason Kenney â spent years achieving within immigrant communities.
On and off stage, Obhrai stresses that the Tories are in danger of further alienating a large segment of the population with antagonizing proposals, such as fellow contestant Kellie Leitchâs pledge to screen newcomers for Canadian values and require face-to-face interviews.
âWhy do you think Iâm speaking?â the Calgary MP asks rhetorically.
Obhrai orders a lobster Cobb salad and grabs a piece of bread. He heralds Canadaâs successful integration model with new immigrants and suggests the base of his party doesnât reflect or understand this experience.
âWhen I go to EDAs [electoral district associations], all those white, old men sitting there who think Canada is still in the 1980s, 1970s, those are the ones giving [Leitch] money,â he says, munching on a piece of bread.
Those are also the people writing to him every time he opens his mouth, he says. Most of the emails are anti-Muslim, many say he is out to lunch.
Deepak Obhrai, centre, speaks at a Conservative leadership debate in December 2016, flanked by Chris Alexander, left, and Maxime Bernier.
âThis is a party election,â Obhrai adds, lowering his voice and leaning across the table. âYou have to appeal to the party base, not the general public.â
His voice is now a whisper. âThis is the base of the Conservative party, the old Conservative party.â
Leitch, who has drawn attention for praising U.S. President Donald Trumpâs electoral campaign, is âfear mongering,â he says. âShe is not the person that I knew.â
The two have known each other for years. Although Leitchâs party roots lie with the Ontario Progressive Conservatives and Obhraiâs are with the Reform party, he says he took her to many cultural events.
Now, they are on what he calls âhello, hello terms.â
Deepak Obhrai used a scooter while campaigning in the last federal election.
Some people are very afraid of change, Obhrai says. They tell him Canada needs to remain âthis type of cultureâ without sharia law and âall these things.â One woman who recently quit the board of his riding association told him Christians are under threat from Muslims and sharia law.
âAre Christians under threat in this country?â He shrugs. âI donât have time for that.â
At the same time though, Obhrai seems to relish responding to those who contact him.
âI keep reminding them that it is the Muslim community that is helping us fight radicalization. Nobody else. It is the Muslim community that is our first strength,â he says. They are working with police. âThey are our first line of defence.â
There are Muslims who come and say they want sharia law, Obhrai offers without prompting. âThat fuels this fear of change,â he says, but Canadaâs foundation is based on common law and freedom, which is ânon-compatible with sharia law.â
âIt will never come,â he says.
"Iâve been here for 20 years, for 40 years. Iâve gone through the whole experience of racism everywhere. Why do you think Iâm running?"
âEven the niqab,â Obhrai continues, âwhat is very interesting about the niqab is the second generation that tastes the freedom that we provide, they donât follow those old traditions.â
He has seen it in his riding, he says, helping himself to a pita crisp. There is a woman, he says, the wife of an imam, who goes to his friendâs halal store wearing a niqab, but when she goes to Ikea she wears no coverings. âThat is the freedom that we give.â
âIâve been here for 20 years, for 40 years. Iâve gone through the whole experience of racism everywhere. Why do you think Iâm running? âŠ The others are not talking about it,â he says of his 13 competitors for the leadership.
âThis whole country is built by immigrants, young peopleâŠ. What about them? Are they facing these barriers? Yes, they areâŠ. Who is going to talk about this? On the national stage, I stand up and talk about it. Despite the fact I get massive amounts of emails.â
The lobster salad is delivered. Obhrai declines fresh ground pepper but accepts the offer of Tabasco sauce. âIâm Indian,â he says with a shrug and a smile.
An undated photo of Deepak Obhrai in Africa.
Obhrai was born on July 5, 1950, in Tanganyika (known as Tanzania since 1964) in a mountain town called Oldeani near the world-famous NGorongoro Crater.
His father was a diabetic who died when Obhrai was six. His mother, armed with a bachelorâs degree, got a job at a bank.
âIf my mother hadnât been educated, I might have been an under-the-tree mechanic,â he says, referring to informal shops that pop up in the countryside, literally under a tree.
Obhrai went to primary school in Moshi, a town at the base of Mount Kilimanjaro. He attended high school in Arusha and was later sent to Indore, India, to study at the prestigious Daly College.
At the time, Tanzania was a one-party socialist state, India a multiparty democracy.
âOne of the things I realized when I came back and was living in Africa was the [South] Asian community did not participate in the political process of the country, and when the time came, they paid the price.â
In 1972, Ugandan President Idi Amin ordered the expulsion of 80,000 people of Asian heritage. In the decade that followed, Tanzania nationalized banks and businesses, the vast majority of which were owned by Asians.
Because they didnât engage with the political system and âwere not identified as locals, they had to leave,â Obhrai says.
Deepak Obhrai worked as an air traffic controller.
Obhrai moved to the Britain, where he studied to be an air traffic controller but realized he didnât want to live there.
âThe British think we are âcoolies,ââ he says, referring to the term used in India for luggage boys.
He returned home to work in air traffic control, and was on duty the night the Israeli Defence Forces landed at Ugandaâs Entebbe airport to free the hostages held by Palestinian hijackers in 1976.
Deepak Obhrai is pictured with Neena, his wife.
A year later, Obhrai landed in Calgary with his wife, Neena, (they wed in 1971) and their three-year-old daughter, Priti. Obhrai initially intended to go to Montreal, but with RenĂ© LĂ©vesqueâs Parti QuĂ©bĂ©cois government in power, he was advised to âgo West.â
âI was working at one of the best international airports, Kilimanjaro International Airport. When I landed in Calgary, it was an old shack! Corrugated roof shack, you know. When I opened the door, I said: âWhat kind of airport is this? Am I in the right country? This is Canada?ââ
While Obhrai worked to get an accounting degree and later a job with the city, he threw himself into community work.
He and Neena also built a dry cleaning business that expanded to three stores. They had two more children: a daughter, Kaajal, in 1978, and son, Aman, in 1984.
Deepak Obhrai with two of his kids in an undated photo.
In the 1990s, Obhrai became the president of the India-Canada Association of Calgary, vice-president of the National Indo-Canadian Council for the Alberta region, president of the Monterey Park Community Association, and president of the Hindu Society of Calgary.
He lost his first bid for public office in 1993, as alderman on city council. He tried unsuccessfully to win a provincial byelection nomination for the Progressive Conservatives in CalgaryâMcCall in 1995. A year later, he lost another bid for a PC nomination in CalgaryâMontrose.
Obhrai says his first attempt taught him how to run an election campaign; the second how to understand party politics, and the third â which he contends was unfairly manipulated â helped him build the base he would use for a successful federal campaign in 1997 under the Reform party banner.
At first, Obhrai says, the board of the riding association tried to block him from running but Reform party leader Preston Manning intervened, telling him to âgoâ for it and to come change the party.
Manning declined to comment. But Rick Anderson, who was campaign director at the time and charged with keeping contests fair and open, confirmed that the party leadership did intervene.
âI donât remember the nature of the problem in Deepakâs riding, but I do recall it was one of a handful where the competition was especially intense, and there was some jostling and the rules needed reinforcing,â he told HuffPost.
Deepak Obhrai in his first year as a member of Parliament.
Obhrai says he didnât realize the amount of âinstitutionalized racism that already existedâ in the party.
âI had to fight tooth and nail,â he says, leaning in. âThatâs when Don Martin wrote I was not going to win.â
Martin, the host of CTVâs âPower Play,â used to write for the Calgary Herald. In July 1997, Obhrai insists Martin wrote a column saying he couldnât win. (Despite a microfiche and Infomart search, HuffPost has been unable to find such an article.)
âDespite Don Martinâs negative comments, I won the election.â
âNot a serious candidateâ
Twenty years and seven election wins later, Obhrai is still upset.
Over the years, Martin hasnât been too generous to the Calgary MP. In 2005, Martin gave Obhrai a C- grade, writing that heâs ânever see[n] a foreign junket heâd refuse and rarely worries the cabinet ministers with the calibre of his questions. He just doesnât leave behind a deep footprint in federal politics.â
Last summer, Martin also pegged Obhraiâs odds of winning the Tory leadership at 500 to1.
Martin believes Obhrai has a âchip on his shoulder.
âI have nothing against him except he's the comic relief and not a serious candidate,â he wrote in an email.
Obhrai believes the âtraditionalâ media are not giving him a fair shake.
But many party insiders echo Martinâs comments. Obhrai is funny and entertaining but not a serious policy thinker or leadership material, they say.
Obhrai says his strength lies with the grassroots. Not just Indians but whites, Lebanese, Filipinos.
His money comes from young people and âoutside traditional people,â he says, âwhich is why I donât register in the polls. Because they go to the traditional supporters.
âYou donât need to write that. Iâm not interested in that. Iâm fine,â he adds.
According to the latest Elections Canada filings, Obhrai has raised $108,333 so far, placing him 11th among Tory leadership candidates for both the total amount of donations and for the number of contributors.
The partyâs âbrown guyâ
In 1997, after Obhrai won a seat in Calgary East, he was named caucus liaison for what the party called its âbridge-building campaign.â Obhrai went to ethnic events, held a large Diwali event on Parliament Hill every year, and cemented his role as the âbrown guyâ in the party.
âThe party asked me to open up the base, to go around bring in new Canadians, young Canadians into the party,â he says.
A decade later, with the now-merged Conservative party in power, prime minister Stephen Harper promoted Jason Kenney, his parliamentary secretary, to the newly created job of minister of state for multiculturalism.
Obhrai says he and Kenney met near the Delta Hotel where Harper was making the offers, and Kenney told him: âTake your job back, I donât want it.â
Kenney, who is now running to lead the Progressive Conservatives in Alberta, says he doesnât remember it exactly that way.
"Thought he was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard."
â[Obhrai] was expecting/hoping to be multiculturalism minister, and I was expecting to be a senior minister,â Kenney wrote to HuffPost. âWe had a curry lunch where I told him I was going to be PS for multi, and he laughed so hard he was crying. Thought he was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard.
âPerhaps, I jokingly suggested we swap jobs. At the end of the day, I ended up loving the [multiculturalism] job, which is why I kept it for a decade, but we were both shocked and found it humorous at first.â
Kenney did throw himself into the job of ethnic outreach with gusto. He was lauded for his efforts, leading some Tories to believe Obhrai feels eclipsed by his successor.
Deepak Obhrai and Stephen Harper light a candle on Parliament Hill to celebrate Diwali, the Indian festival of lights, in 2009. (Photo: Canadian Press)
Obhrai had a good gig. He served in the entire Harper government as parliamentary secretary for foreign affairs. If there was a meeting in a faraway land the minister didnât want to attend, Obhrai would be there. His office is a collection of mementos from his travels: plates, plaques, ornaments.
The elder statesman
After a few more bites of his lunch, Obhrai pauses.
âI want you to help me write a little story,â he says. During the 2008 election, The Globe and Mailâs Jane Taber wrote an article describing him as âself-praising,â he says, because he pointed out to constituents that he was now an elder. âShe was kind of making fun of it.â
Obhraiâs details are off. It was after the 2011 election, after he wrote a letter to The Calgary Herald and to his supporters pointing out that he was the oldest South Asian left in the House of Commons:
âIn my birth country, Tanzania, I would henceforth be referred to by the respectful title of Mzee. In South Asia, I would receive the title of Pradhaan. This means I have now reached the ranks of respected elders. I still look young!â
The fact remains that Obhrai was bruised by Taberâs comment: âI didnât understand was why she said that.â
He explains: âIn African and Indian language, elders are given the highest degree of respect.â
Deepak Obhrai meets the Dalai Lama.
Two days previously, another reporter had told him that there are no elders in the Western world. âOnce you become a senior, they are told: Keep going buddy, thank you. They do not have that kind of respectâŠ. Now, I understand why their attack was misplaced,â he says. He wants everyone to know he was unaware of this so it can be reflected in âWikileaks.â He probably means Wikipedia.
At 66, the grandfather of two insists heâs running to win and should be taken seriously. He is the dean of the Conservative caucus after all â the longest serving Tory on the Hill.
Despite stating in debates that he has âno platform,â he has put forward policy. He wants to spend more on the Canadian Border Services Agency to protect âthe largest porous borderâ in the world. He wants the Business Development Bank of Canada to give start-up loans to students, the unemployed and anyone else with a sound business plan. He wants to cut the $1 billion the federal government spends yearly on settlement costs for landed immigrants.
âWhen I came to this country, nobody gave me money. We came prepared to work hard,â Obhrai says, adding that he would maintain settlement costs for refugees.
Deepak Obhrai with his wife, and their grandkids Davin, 10, and Evasha, 8.
Obhrai favours low taxes and no deficits, but heâs willing to run them when the economy nosedives. He likes the public health care system and wants to invest more in training nurses and would consider creating a pharmacare program. He wants more foreign investment, less regulation and more government investment in green scientific innovation. Specifically, he wants Ottawa to invest in fast-neutron reactors (FNRs) that would recycle nuclear waste from nuclear plants and create carbon-free energy.
Heâs fine with scrapping the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and would prefer that Canada sign bilateral trade agreements with the United States and Mexico, because, he says, such deals create a more equal level playing field. Still, he supports the free trade deal with the European Union because the region is already integrated.
The French factor
One of Obhraiâs biggest challenges as a potential Tory leader may be his language deficit. Despite fluency in Swahili, Hindi, Punjabi, Gujrati, and English, he does not speak French.
âLook, I speak five languages, itâs not difficult for me to learn another language,â he says. But he has been trying to learn French since July 2015 and still has trouble stringing a sentence together.
His incomprehensible French has garnered celebrity attention in Quebec, something he clearly relishes.
âPeople are saying âYou are the guy who massacred the language but you were there, you showed respect,â he says. âIâm getting more calls from Quebec City to go back.â
âFrom the time I started running, I was told: he wonât make it, heâll be out, heâll be this, heâll be that, he wonât be able to make the money, he should be out, he doesnât speak French, he doesnât do anything, nobody knows him,â Obhrai says.
âMy debates prove that I know what the hell that I am talking about. My French, despite the fact [he doesnât speak it] went very well. Despite the fact [people said] I wasnât going to raise the money, I raised the money. I do not follow their traditional way of [thinking].
âI create my own script, which is why I am here for 20 years and the others have gone,â he says with a big laugh. âAnd I will continue doing that.â
CORRECTION: An earlier version misspelled Idi Amin's first name. This article has been updated.